[XD9]

Here is a story that I just read that reminded me to be careful with my guns at all times. If your gun is falling to the ground, is it best to let it go? With the safeties in the new ones, I would think so.

Cop accidentally shoots man while on loo

An off-duty policeman's gun went off twice as he pulled down his pants to use the toilet, injuring a man.

Officer Craig Clancy was attending a car auction in San Antonio when nature called.

As he undid his trousers, the gun fell from its holster.

Officer Clancy tried to catch it, but accidentally fired two bullets when his finger grabbed the trigger by mistake.

Police spokesman Gabe Trevino told KSAT news: "As Clancy tried to stop the gun from hitting the ground, his finger entered the trigger guard, which cause the weapon to go off twice.

"The first bullet went through the wall of the cubicle and through the pants of a man, grazing his leg."

The injured man, who was washing his hands at the time, was taken to hospital.

The Texan police department for internal affairs is investigating the incident.

 

[P95Carry]

It seems strange that so many cases involving dropped guns have resulted in (somehow) the trigger finger getting onto trigger.

It would seem that it is best to allow the drop but - heck - that means cancelling a basic reflex action - and it happens in milli seconds.

Maybe we should all experiment - place a nice thick comforter on floor and then unload gun - and proceed to let drop in various ways - and see if catching causes a trigger release.

Best of all has to be indeed - security of the piece and - proper and careful handling.... that latter being the most useful measure.

 

[Bruces45]

Remember that story one of the members told about falling asleep with his glock and it went off when he was sleeping? Some guns must just have a mind of their own .
I have dropped my 1911 when reholstering (shirt tail went into holster when I reholstered the pistol didn't seat all the way) It was loaded when it hit the ground(C&L), and nothing bad happened, except the plastic factory grip cracked(SA Mil-spec)

 

[XD9]

I don't react and try and catch everything I drop. Ex. knifes, chainsaws, pirhanas, bowling balls, straight razors, hatchets, broadswords, etc. (ok, some of those are a little extreme) but if I drop something that I know is dangerous, I naturally just get out of the way. Thinking about it now, I would classify my gun the same way. DANGEROUS to try and catch. What about you?

 

[Hask12]

Curious

I thought holsters that police use always come with a thumbreak. So how does a gun fall out of that kind of set up.

 

[JT]

Never try to catch a dropped gun, because your finger could grab the trigger. Admittedly hard to do. That’s why I make it part of my training exercise. I drop it on hard pavement, and practice not catching it.

Ok, I'm lying about the practice part.

 

[rocky]

I thought holsters that police use always come with a thumbreak. So how does a gun fall out of that kind of set up.

Probably off duty at the time. Makes ya kinda think, Hmmm.........manaul safeties can be a good thing.

 

[JT]

A drop saftey will do the trick as long as you don't try to catch the gun.

 

[FortyFive]

A female officer was changing firearms during range practice and dropped her .45 catching it in the trgger guard. The discharge sent a slug into her skull and she managed to live. I don't know details as this happened a couple of years ago.

 

[QKShooter]

A Puzzle

How does any firearm unless it's full auto go off TWICE when you drop it & try to catch it?
Once...OK ~ but, Twice?
Sounds strange to me.

 

[shooter1]

QK,
Second round bump fired.
str1

 

[gunthorp]

What was it? Sig? Glock? 1911?
I have heard of Glocks NDing when pocketing/holstering if something catches the trigger shoe. Does any know of a ND in a 1911 with a firing pin block?

 

[P95Carry]

Does any know of a ND in a 1911 with a firing pin block?

I somehow doubt that !!

 

[gunthorp]

thread could be: making sure you have a secure gun all the time

 

[rfurtkamp]

I know my Sigs won't go off when they hit the ground.

They may scar the finish, but they don't go off. Been there, done it.

 

[Bud White]

Bet ya it was a Glock to ... Someone had to say it

 

[Brian45]

I think this guy needs a good holster and some practice using it with a unloaded firearm while answering that call of nature. :biggrin:

 

[QKShooter]

Bump Fire ~ I Guess.

I sure would like to know & maybe see a "video in slow motion" of exactly how this guy "caught" that pistol that "flopped out" & fell from a seated position w/ the muzzle facing outward and upward enough to graze the leg of the guy in the next stall during a lightning fast mid air catch from 3' above the floor.
Maybe there is just not something that I'm not understanding 100% here. I'm not sure I want to know too many more details.
Stranger things (for sure) have happened but, that is pretty strange. I'll bet it scared the $h1t right out of him.

 

[Scott]

I'm with QK. I'm skeptical about the version of events. Must have been appendix carry and he fumbled it some. I would have to see how high the holes in the door were and the angles etc.

It could have been a Springfield XD or S&W Sigma, you Glock haters. :tongue:

Would a DAO have helped this situation I wonder. I would think it may have prevented round #2 at least.

-Scott-

 

[Tangle]

I'm with QKS too. I know there are accidents, but some kinda make you wonder. Also, how many people want to admit they did something unwise that resulted in a UD (unintentional discharge), so maybe they embellish the story a bit?

A gun in good working order should not fire if it is dropped. Except for 1911s and a very few others, all have firing pin blocks that block the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. I think there's a clue there. Plus a 1911 would require the grip safety to be pressed, the thumb safety released, and the trigger pulled. And some think C&L is unsafe. Maybe that should read how could anyone thing carrying a 1911 C&L'd is unsafe?