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I generally support due process when fighting crime. However when it comes to the Mexican Cartels I think getting LEOs killed making arrests of high level leaders ought to be replaced by a system of assassinations by snipers. It is not like the target was possibly innocent, and it was inescapable that there would be a severe gunfight. So I would choose to save the lives of the LEOs by assassinating the bad guys in charge. Of course a bomb or rocket from a drone would be good too although not as precise when it comes to collateral casualties. But if it is a WAR on drugs, then fight it like a war. My Marine mentality is driving my thinking in this case.
 

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Time for 1/4 mile of Land mines and Claymores facing the South side of the Border wall.(1/2 mile from the Wall so there's a "Killing Zone" for the ones who do navigate the mines.) ...Backed with Towers and Patrolled with Global Hawks and Reapers...For the aircraft that try yo fly over the Border.... Just my thoughts... YMMV
 

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Interesting, that the video of the assassination was clearly shot on a hand held camera, and the operator knew what was going to happen.
Probably to make sure others know what's in store for them, should they wish to TRY to detain/ eradicate others in the Cartel syndicates. I wonder what would the Cartels think/feel if they were met with 100 Million AR/AK and similar rifle owners, backed up by our Military Forces....to "curtail" their movements/actions. ....Could get "messy and nasty"
 

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I generally support due process when fighting crime. However when it comes to the Mexican Cartels I think getting LEOs killed making arrests of high level leaders ought to be replaced by a system of assignations by snipers. It is not like the target was possibly innocent, and it was inescapable that there would be a severe gunfight. So I would choose to save the lives of the LEOs by assenting the bad guys in charge. Of course a bomb or rocket from a drone would be good too although not as precise when it comes to collateral casualties. But if it is a WAR on drugs, then fight it like a war. My Marine mentality is driving my thinking in this case.
Here in our own US when the crime gangs got to be too much, they no longer cared who they were shooting up, Cops family's started being targeted.
The FBI started hiring the Untouchables! They were guys who did not have family's, were paid enough that bribery was difficult, And they lived in common barracks. That also made them difficult to single out.

Mexico is going to have to fight like a cartel in order to push them out. Target anyone who touches the cartels hand. Anyone who gives them safe haven, and anyone who profits from them. And unfortunately their wives and children are not off the table either!
But with Mexico's history, anyone who can defeat the cartels, will then take over the country! DR
 

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The Mexican government does not want to fight the cartels.
Most of them are on the take and make most of their money from them.
The people are going to need to revolt from their government again.
They are going to need a modern day Pancho Villa.
I feel sorry for the every day Mexican who have to live with that horror.
But we have or own problems here in El Norte.
Build the Wall, Deport MS-13 and take back the cities.
 

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I generally support due process when fighting crime. However when it comes to the Mexican Cartels I think getting LEOs killed making arrests of high level leaders ought to be replaced by a system of assignations by snipers. It is not like the target was possibly innocent, and it was inescapable that there would be a severe gunfight. So I would choose to save the lives of the LEOs by assenting the bad guys in charge. Of course a bomb or rocket from a drone would be good too although not as precise when it comes to collateral casualties. But if it is a WAR on drugs, then fight it like a war. My Marine mentality is driving my thinking in this case.
I don't usually pick on spelling or grammatical errors, but some are just too hilarious to resist brother, so I apologize in advance.

Snipers having "romantic relationships" with cartel goons!!!

And giving "loud shouts of approval" to the bad guys in charge? Priceless!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

But all is not lost...thanks for the "Marine way of thinking" about this. I sure wish someone in authority used that time-tested way of dealing with the issue. I would like to suggest that we pave the way for the Marines with a few cruise missile strikes targeted by careful intelligence gathering.



@KILTED COWBOY The Mexican government no longer wants to tangle with the cartels precisely because the Mexican government IS THE CARTEL for all practical purposes. That is what you call someone who takes money for services in protecting lawlessness.
 

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So the police give in and release "El Chapo’s" son and they still do this. What if they ended up keeping him in custody? Would they have massacred an entire police station?
 

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So the police give in and release "El Chapo’s" son and they still do this. What if they ended up keeping him in custody? Would they have massacred an entire police station?
Probably, along with their entire family. From what I understand, the police, or more so their national guard didn’t have a fighting chance against the cartel.

I saw a quote on Facebook that said something like if you’re not capable of violence you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless. I’m a firm believer that a lot is solved by violence and the projection of it. Hugs not bullets will never work.
 

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Not to quibble (OK, maybe I am), but I'd be highly surprised if one or two of those early 155+ bullets didn't kill him.

Mexico and the cartels are at war. Unfortunately el presidento is either in their pocket or is a fool. In either case, Mexico is on the losing side. It is unfortunate they are unwilling to take on this scourge with all their might, even if it means declaring martial law or a declaration of war. Trump has already offered to help but was declined. It is going to take a military campaign to defeat these internal armies.
 

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With all my heart I believe the American Marines could take out the cartels in less than a week. Problem fixed, kill them all.

Common sense says that America shouldn’t just walk in and take over no more than we should in Canada if it were to happen there or Spain, I get this however with this flowing over into America then I do see were that’s a game changer :yup:
 

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The Mexican government does not want to fight the cartels.
Most of them are on the take and make most of their money from them.
The people are going to need to revolt from their government again.
They are going to need a modern day Pancho Villa.
I feel sorry for the every day Mexican who have to live with that horror.
But we have or own problems here in El Norte.
Build the Wall, Deport MS-13 and take back the cities.
Exactly this. The government will not fight the cartels because the government is part of the cartels. Watch "Narcos-Mexico" on Netflix. Fun series about the start of the cartels in Mexico. Based on the truth but it is a drama show. Really illustrates the cartel-gov't-army-federal police force marriage that makes these cartels possible.
 

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And the Slaughter continues as Mexico is helpless to stop it...WHY?,Most of the Gov`t there are on the take!. How do you stop that= Identify them then take them out in Public and Execute them as an Example!. The Only Way!.
 

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And the Slaughter continues as Mexico is helpless to stop it...WHY?,Most of the Gov`t there are on the take!. How do you stop that= Identify them then take them out in Public and Execute them as an Example!. The Only Way!.
And who would identify and take them out? The gov't itself is a narco-terrorist organization. There IS no defeating the Mexican cartels without taking out the Mexican gov't itself. Anything on that scale would have to be us. Not sure how I feel about that though. I do not like US military involved in fixing other countries yet there is a certain national security risk to our country as they are our crappy neighbors. I could care less about what Mexico ends up with as a gov't in the end as long as it is not a threat to America. I don't believe in wasting US lives to bring democracy to people that are not worthy of it. We have done that before. I'd be fine with us propping up a dictator there to eliminate all cartel activity, regardless of what he has to do. That would solve the security issue with our southern border with the least use of US treasure and lives.
 

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The reason Mexico will not seriously challenge the cartels is because they know the President and any officials that are responsible for actions would be dead within a week. If they admit this and ask for or accept U.S. assistance it would be admitting weakness.

Any assistance would have to be covert and overwhelming. The problem is how to be both. Perhaps the best opportunity would be while the President is out of the country on a state visit.
 
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