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I received this via email and thought it would make good reading for those of us who never get on the front lines of these battles. From my own experience I don't see American flags in Mexican neighborhoods during our major holidays. We get our full of Mexican flags with politicians at other times of the year. It may be old stuff but the trend illegals is apparent.

Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

Dear Team America,

We have a new report on our website:
Mexicans or Terrorists? The Battle for Baldwin Park

I cannot email it to you because it is loaded with transcripts,
photos, and video clips. Many of them contain very offensive
statements and angry racist slurs that were shouted at the
Americans who dared to protest in Baldwin Park, California on May 14.

Most email servers will not permit this type of foul language.
You will need to go to our site to view the videos and read what
recently took place in an American city.

Many in our government and the media deny the existence of the
militant Mexican plans for the reconquista of Aztlan [the
take-over of the southwestern U.S. by Mexicans]. They say it is
just another conspiracy theory. Others say it is only an idea
supported by a few radical hispanics.

What happened in Baldwin Park, is happening in cities across
America. It is supported by all the major Mexican organizations
including LULAC, LaRaza, and MALDEF. These groups get funding
from corporations and American taxpayers. Elected officials
attend their events and accept their awards. The media quotes
them as sources in news reports. Yet they continue to deny that
any of these groups are a danger to American citizens.

Go to our site. Read the transcripts and view the videos. Ask
all who continue to support open borders to take time to see the
footage and then decide. Is it all a myth? Or is the reconquista
of Aztlan well under way?

For the Cause, Linda

PS -- See below a report from Joe Turner - - on
the protest and an article on Aztlan by Frosty Wooldridge.


Joe Turner - Save Our State

In the bizarre world that we live in, merely opposing illegal
immigration and all the peripheral issues that go along with it
is justification for being labeled a racist, bigot or a

In countless interviews, I am asked my thoughts when our
opponents accuse us of being a racist organization. I constantly
wonder why reporters simply regurgitate unsubstantiated claims
and in the process perform the devil's bidding.

Yet, as evidenced by today's happenings, it is so crystal clear
that our opponents are projecting their bigotry and hatred onto
us. Today, we saw some of the most vile hatred and bigotry
expressed towards us by the Mechistas.

Everything that we argued the monument stood for was reinforced
by the hundreds of activists who opposed our presence in Baldwin
Park. Numerous times we were told that this land is Mexico and
that they were taking it back. Numerous times racist epithets
were hurled away. One person even hurled a full water bottle at
our side and sent one of our activists to the hospital with
bleeding in the brain. Unfortunately, she is now in the
intensive care unit and we are all praying and hoping for the

What started as a rather peaceful and uneventful protest on our
side ended in sheer hostility. The counter demonstrators were
supposed to rally at the other end of the metrolink station, but
proceeded to outflank the Baldwin Park Police Department and
traveled through a local neighborhood so that they could
formally confront us at the intersection allocated to us for our

In waves they came. Soon outnumbered 500-50 in a community that
is 85% Hispanic, crowd control soon became an issue. Rants,
chants and Mexican flags filled the air. They spit and a dragged
and kicked an American flag over the ground. It is imperative to
note that it was the only American flag displayed by our

At the conclusion of the rally, a twenty year veteran of the
force shared that today's rally was the most intense and largest
he has seen in his career. And intense it was, for at one point,
I was informed by BPPD that they could no longer ensure our
safety. Mind you, there were upwards of 70+ officers on duty in
riot gear. Emergency reserves were summoned from various local
agencies. A police helicopter circled above for the entire
duration. Officers with sniper rifles rested on a roof above.

In fact, we were told that a credible source of intelligence
suggested that violent attack on our group was in the making and
that two hundred more demonstrators may be en route (which would
have presumably overwhelmed the already taxed resources).
Surrounded by hostile forces on all sides, we were evacuated by
the police department to the police station one block away until
the crowd dispersed.

We did not hurl racist epithets or make bigoted hate-filled
comments. We did not hurl objects at our opponents or resort to
violence. Yet, we are racist vigilantes!

It is of utmost importance to emphasize one singular point.
Everything that we stated that monument stood for, embodied, and
represented, was reinforced and confirmed by the actions of
those opposing us today. To suggest that the monument doesn't
reinforce the reconquista of Aztlan and hatred toward whites is
simply delusional.


By Frosty Wooldridge - November 25, 2004

They come to do the work that American's won't do. They come for
a better life. They come in droves. Over 4,000 per night cross
our Arizona borders. They number in excess of 15 million. They
come from an endless line out of the Third World. What most
Americans don't realize-they come to colonize and ultimately
conquer our four Border States-but it doesn't end there.

One look at California illustrates a successful invasion in
process. What are the signs? Last year, according to demographic
experts, 800,000 American citizens fled California. Why? Los
Angeles stands as a clone of Mexico City. Slums, trash, disease,
gangs, drugs, bankrupting hospitals, schools in chaos and about
the only persons speaking English are Jay Leno and his guests on
the Tonight Show. Over 9.2 million Mexicans transplanted
themselves into the four Border States-and beyond-all the way to
Maine, Iowa, Minnesota, Oregon, Georgia, North Carolina and

They are not assimilating, not speaking English, not respecting
our laws, paying taxes, driving with licenses, carrying
insurance or investing as American citizens.

They lead 'Reconquista of Aztlan.' Mexico feels our four border
states were stolen by the United States. They maintain a long-
term plan for reconquering 'their' land. It's called 'El Plan de
Aztlan.' Read about it.

They write, "In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not
only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal
"******" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano
inhabitants of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our
forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating
the determination of our people of the sun-- declare that the
call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our
inevitable destiny."

Who are "they?" They are militant, cunning and growing leaders
infiltrating the upper ranks of the government in California.
U.S. House Representative Joe Baca of California works for
illegal aliens by hamstringing the U.S. Border Patrol,
supporting the Dream Act, Special Order 40 and other aspects
that assist La Raza. It stands for-"For the race, everything,
for those outside the race, nothing." Baca supports the Mexican
American Legal Defense and Education Fund and several others.

Talk about "racism!" What do you think will happen when these
wonderful folks gain power? If you swallow a scorpion, you will
get stung to death from the inside.

Baca gave a speech, which borders on treason, "'s a great
feeling, you know, La Raza, it's about increasing our numbers
because we're in a civil war." This is a man who swore to defend
the U.S. Constitution but engages in another calling. He enjoys
powerful backup in men like Art Torres, former California State
Senator, Jose Gutierrez, Professor at the University of Texas,
Mario Obledo founder of MALDEF and Armando Navarro, Professor of
ethics at the University of California.

Their website continues its subversion of America, "We are free
and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called
for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our
hearts. Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the
fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans.
With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we
declare the independence of our mestizo nation.

Before the world, before all of North America, before all our
brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a
union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan."

What you fellow American must understand is the growing fact
that they mean business. California isn't that far away from
where you are. You can see their numbers growing in your
community. Your kids are suffering with their language chaos in
your classrooms. They are undermining and under cutting
America's working class.

"We are committed to the idea and philosophy of El Plan de
Aztlan, we can only conclude that social, economic, cultural,
and political independence is the only road to total liberation
from oppression, exploitation and racism. Our struggle then must
be for the control of our barrios, campos, pueblos, lands, our
economy, our culture, and our political life. El Plan commits
all levels of Chicano society - the barrio, the campo, the
ranchero, the writer, the teacher, the worker, the professional -
to La Causa. Nationalism is the common denominator that all
members of La Raza can agree upon."

"We must control barrios, the pueblo, the campo, the land, the
poor, the middle class, the professional-all committed to the
liberation of La Raza...for the very young there will no longer be
acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts...our culture
unites and educates the family of La Raza towards liberation...we
must insure that our writers, poets, musicians, and artists
produce literature and art that is appealing to our people and
relates to our revolutionary culture. Our cultural values of
life, family, and home will serve as a powerful weapon to defeat
the ****** dollar value system and encourage the process of love
and brotherhood...politically when we are a majority, we will
control...La Familia de La Raza...presented at every meeting,
demonstration, confrontation, courthouse, institution,
administration, church, school, tree, building, car, and every
place of human existence...creation of an independent local,
regional, and national political party...a nation autonomous and
free - culturally, socially, economically, and politically- will
make its own decisions on the usage of our lands, the taxation
of our goods, the utilization of our bodies for war, the
determination of justice (reward and punishment), and the profit
of our sweat...El Plan de Aztlan is the plan of liberation!"

If that doesn't amount to treason within our own country, I
don't know what does. This invasion manifests Third World
Momentum. Mexicans can't run their own country with any degree
of success, so, they overrun our country with their desperately
poor, diseased and dispossessed. From historical perspective,
you can expect that the new Aztlan will be much like the
quagmire of Mexico City-transplanting itself into our country.

Look in horror as Colonias "new neighborhoods" expand along the
2,000-mile border with Mexico from Brownsville, Texas to San
Diego, California. They feature no running water, sewage,
electricity or roads.

They house desperately poor, uneducated and diseased slums from
Third World Mexico. According to the New York Times, in 1985
they numbered 170,000. By 1995, they hit 500,000. In 2000, they
reached 1,000,000. The Times predicted their numbers at 20
million by 2021.

Can you imagine the disease-terror complications to our U.S.
population as their numbers grow into a monster much like Bombay
or Calcutta?

The next question is, why aren't our leaders arresting and
prosecuting such men and women of Aztlan. Why is our Congress
not enforcing our immigration laws against such an invasion?
With California standing at three million illegal aliens, what
happens when they reach 10 million illegals? What is the number
in your state?

How bad will it become? Short answer: much worse! Unless you
take action.

We need a 10-year moratorium on all immigration into the United
States and we need U.S. troops on our borders. We need
repatriation of illegals back to their own countries. Knowledge
without taking action is worthless.

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I'm not one to buy into or propagate conspiracy theories and hate mongering, but I honestly believe that the border issues we are now facing is the single most important security issue that we Americans are facing in the new millenium.

My opinion is it's in my best interest and the best interest of all legal Americans to wage a campaign against the threat from the South, and to a lesser degree but still present, from the North. I support Team Americas efforts to clamp our borders shut! This is scary stuff!

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Deke45 said:
I'm not one to buy into or propagate conspiracy theories and hate mongering, but I honestly believe that the border issues we are now facing is the single most important security issue that we Americans are facing in the new millenium.

My opinion is it's in my best interest and the best interest of all legal Americans to wage a campaign against the threat from the South, and to a lesser degree but still present, from the North. I support Team Americas efforts to clamp our borders shut! This is scary stuff!
I like your Kimber-must shooters are going to express your thoughts about not being hate mongering, they wear the white hats and are for fairness. TYhe dirty deeds are being done to us by those in charge of our well being and thats what is bad. I thought this was a good informative piece of email. It bothered me that a politician I gave money to is a bad guy.

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FortyFive said:
ITYhe dirty deeds are being done to us by those in charge of our well being and thats what is bad. I thought this was a good informative piece of email. It bothered me that a politician I gave money to is a bad guy.
Yeah, that would PO me too! Thanks for posting the piece...just another example of things you would not normally hear or read from the news!

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Geez - seen those video's? - holy moly - scary ain't in it! To think - those people are living in our midst. Decidely Isalmic flavor in odd places too - in essence - totally anti American.

The hole should have been plugged long, long ago - and all the time the ''leak'' has been insidiously trickling on - or is that flood more like. Now we have all this crap.

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All I have to say is to research "La Reconquista" also just Reconquista, it's an eye opener.

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I don't know if people not in Arizona heard it but we recently had an organized "boycott" of the Arizona economy by a pro alien group here which flopped miserably. They are now calling for a permanent "boycott" of our economy. They are being asked to not support Arizona's tourism or buy from Arizona businesses of any kind. Funny and shows just how dense these guys are, they are pushing it from within Arizona, lol.

It turned out the guy that is organizing this in the Phoenix area accepted over a million (yankee) dollars from the City of Phoenix to build a "day work center", which is a facility for illegal aliens to hang out and wait for people to come pick them up for day labor jobs. :mad:

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The saga continues! I copied some information from the OC registor. Last night 5-25-5 the California Commission for Immigration Reform had its meeting in Garden Grove, Barbara Coe is chairwomen. The prime speaker was Jim Gilchrist of the Minuteman project. Gov Schwarzenegger praised Jim Gilchrist but President Bush calls the Minuteman project vigilantes. A van driven by one of the Coalition members struck down 2 protestors blocking the driveway. More like they fell in front of the van but the cops arrested him on suspicion of deadly assault. Question for Leo’s here, why didn’t the cops clear the driveway so vehicles could enter??? Why let an obvious event happen? The protestors broke windows in the van. The protestors are calling the Minuteman effort racist.
I believe 99% of Americans don’t give a hoot about illegal’s. The politicians provide money and support to organizations that support illegal’s. Law enforcement says hey we don’t hold them if they are here illegally because we need their help to fight crime. What a bunch of crap, if the cops know of a problem that is illegal they will take care of it you can be sure so why overlook this problem??
Oh so sorry to rant but we are sliding down that slope to a cesspool of hell for our country.
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