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what do you think the government would do if we had a march on the mall in DC. Call it the million gun march everyone waking down the street packing some heat. would they listen then or would they call in the national guard? Why dont we have large gun rallys in sacramento, ca, new york, DC, etc. We need to let these commie pigs like john kerry, the clintons, fienstien that we mean business with our right to keep and bear arms that has been infringed upon. we need to stand and be heard in mass not one at a time. we need to send a strong message to washington and other anti gun places. that they are infringing on our rights. the nra cant do it for us we need to do it for our selfs. i served my country in battle and men are fighting in iraq to preserve those rights. Is the sacrifice of the men who fought in the revolutionary war in vain. Was there blood spilled for nothing. The nation of islam had there million man march, the women had the million mom march, now is the time for the million gun march!
 

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possession of guns (especially extra evil handguns) is verboten in our nation's capital.


Now what might work is a Million Gun Owner's March where we all show up wearing empty holsters and with empty slings over our sholders ... letting them know that "somewhere" guns exist to fill those holsters and slings.
 

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yep -- a concealed driveby.

We'll annouce that we did it, one million of us, and no one knew the difference.

Kind of like all the other "million mom" "million man" and "million moron" marches.
 

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No Marching....Symbolic Buses are in - Marching is out.

We should go in buses that run on "smokeless powder" instead of vegetable oil. :biggrin:
 

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what do you think the government would do if we had a march on the mall in DC. Call it the million gun march everyone waking down the street packing some heat. would they listen then or would they call in the national guard? Why dont we have large gun rallys in sacramento, ca, new york, DC, etc. We need to let these commie pigs like john kerry, the clintons, fienstien that we mean business with our right to keep and bear arms that has been infringed upon. we need to stand and be heard in mass not one at a time. we need to send a strong message to washington and other anti gun places. that they are infringing on our rights. the nra cant do it for us we need to do it for our selfs. i served my country in battle and men are fighting in iraq to preserve those rights. Is the sacrifice of the men who fought in the revolutionary war in vain. Was there blood spilled for nothing. The nation of islam had there million man march, the women had the million mom march, now is the time for the million gun march!

First, I am a Disabled Veteran that served my country also. And I hope that I am not out of line here, but as a Professional Counselor it seems that your comments have some undertones that are contrary to what this site stands for. I feel that you have some anger present some where in your life and you are seeking to get an audience here. Well from my internet interactions here with these good people. Sir, I think you have made a huge mistake. :cool:
 

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Blue Lion -- reread James Bond due to your post. I'm not going to psychoanalyze him, as you have, but I can agree that the tone regarding the socialist elitists was a bit strident.

Thank you both for your service.
 

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My Serious "Take" On This Thread Topic

Seriously...An armed Gun March on Washington, DC ~ It will never happen. The reason that it won't happen is that nearly every single "Carry Person" and Legal Gun Owner/ Hunter Sports Shooter in the United States is a Law Abiding Citizen.

SO naturally....they/us would want oppressive gun restrictions fought in the courtroom & the Supreme Court Of The United States.
The vast majority of Firearms Owners would likely not ever intentionally violate the gun laws just to make a statement.
It would not really accomplish much because the media would spin it as it being a huge mob of gun crazy criminals all breaking & violating the law. They would "Class It" as a Mutiny and a Crazed Revolt.
The negative press would be incredible and the final outcome would be that the entire effort would be enormously counterproductive.

Plus..."what if" the National Guard was justifiably called in.
That's not a situation that I personally would enjoy placing myself into the middle of. I (for sure) would not relish a possible confrontation or a situation "going out of control" with fellow Great Americans at odds with each other.

Though it is fun thinking about a Million Gun type event to equal a Million Mom March....I would not ever break the law to participate in it.
Actually, we are SLOWLY but surely winning the fight against unreasonable restrictive firearms regulations on the State and National level.
The recent firearms confiscation's in Louisiana just created a situation that will be heard in the High Courts & THAT will likely rule in our favor also.
Why would we screw that up & swing the pendulum back in the other direction by getting all spazzy at this particular point in time?
We are winning the fight legally so there is not much need to travel down an illegal pathway.


Just my personal serious opinion.
 

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Seriously...An armed Gun March on Washington, DC ~ It will never happen. The reason that it won't happen is that nearly every single "Carry Person" and Legal Gun Owner/ Hunter Sports Shooter in the United States is a Law Abiding Citizen.

SO naturally....they/us would want oppressive gun restrictions fought in the courtroom & the Supreme Court Of The United States.
The vast majority of Firearms Owners would likely not ever intentionally violate the gun laws just to make a statement.
It would not really accomplish much because the media would spin it as it being a huge mob of gun crazy criminals all breaking & violating the law. They would "Class It" as a Mutiny and a Crazed Revolt.
The negative press would be incredible and the final outcome would be that the entire effort would be enormously counterproductive.

Plus..."what if" the National Guard was justifiably called in.
That's not a situation that I personally would enjoy placing myself into the middle of. I (for sure) would not relish a possible confrontation or a situation "going out of control" with fellow Great Americans at odds with each other.

Though it is fun thinking about a Million Gun type event to equal a Million Mom March....I would not ever break the law to participate in it.
Actually, we are SLOWLY but surely winning the fight against unreasonable restrictive firearms regulations on the State and National level.
The recent firearms confiscation's in Louisiana just created a situation that will be heard in the High Courts & THAT will likely rule in our favor also.
Why would we screw that up & swing the pendulum back in the other direction by getting all spazzy at this particular point in time?
We are winning the fight legally so there is not much need to travel down an illegal pathway.


Just my personal serious opinion.

+1. Very Well Said QKS
 

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QK - you pretty much covered that :wink:
 

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+1+qks
 

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Dear JB:

I am going to assume that you are a young feller showing the exuberance so typical of your age and believing with passion for a cause. It is either that or you are an infiltrator from whatever anti-gun group there is out there looking for a reaction from Gun Nuts so you can boast to your friends and show how dangerous we are and how we should be taken to some forsaken concentration camp and left there to rot.

But let me think you are the first case. Revolutions are not easy or cheap or painless. They can be bloody affairs in which innocents and participants can lose life and loved ones. They must be avoided at almost all costs.

Gun Owners in the USA have done a miracle. 20 years ago we were akin the SS and the KGB. We were villified, called any name in the book and they were strangling our rights. What we have done in that time is simply amazing. We own the bullet box and we used the soap box and the ballot box to turn the tide. Not simply stop it, we turned it. When once we were the most hated group of individuals, we are now the most feared lobby. When the whole world is slowly phasing away gun rights from their citizens, we have raised it for ours. 20 years ago, we could not have our opinion heard anywhere and now they cannot open their mouths and spew their lies without us shouting back with the truth. When they tried to vote away our rights, we voted out their minnions. And trust me, they do not want us to open their bullet box 'cause we have more ammo than they do and taking up arms would invalidate their whole argument.

Are we done? Nope, still ways to go. I think we will finish and be victorious but I also know it is not gonna happen in the the next commercial break. But we will carry on.

And in case you are an infiltrator all along, allow me to say that while you are doing all you can to restric my rights, I am doing all possible to guarantee yours.

And that is what makes us different from tyhe other side.
 

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I'm another. +1, QK. Very well said!

And +1 to you, too, Miggy!
 

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Heh.

I want to see evidence of us getting our 2A rights back because I sure don't see it. It's gotten continually worse since I've been born. There's been no serious effort whatsoever on a large scale to restore my rights or anyone else's. There's a few people who care who are doing good work and fighting the tide, but the fact is generations ago, long before I was ever born, the 2A was already dead.

But pulling some stunt like a bunch of vegetarians who march around naked is just... it's just not going to change anything.
 

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Heh.

I want to see evidence of us getting our 2A rights back because I sure don't see it. It's gotten continually worse since I've been born. There's been no serious effort whatsoever on a large scale to restore my rights or anyone else's.
Beg to differ. There was no shall issue concealed carry in Missouri and many other states 20 years ago. At that time in MO, prior to the law passed two years ago over the veto of our Socialist Democrat governor, you COULD NOT have a loaded firearm in the passenger compartment of your vehicle. Now we have "car carry' as well as CCW.

Car carry was a major change for those who did not wish to CCW. They could keep a weapon in their car to repel carjackers, etc.

Yep, things have gotten a lot better in the Show Me state. (where you don't show, unless you want a brandishing charge, btw...)
 

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I will give you another: The Assault Weapons Ban with a sunset provision. To introduce the sunset into the legislation was a major coup. The ban did not get renewed because they were never able to prove (as we all knew it) that it made a difference in crime reduction and we manage to force legislators into seeing the hard numbers. If the Sunset provision would not have been inserted, we would still be eating that stupid law no matter what the evidence said.

Are we done? Like I said, no we are not. I would love to see US v. Miller reversed and the over-stepping authority given to ATF eliminated. But I know that I cannot wish for an instant-coffee-drive-through solution.
 

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In defense of Euc, how about concealled carry permits in over 35 states? Sound like progress? I think not. CCW turned a right into a state controlled and granted privilege that can be lost if you do something the state doesn't like.

Some states are revoking CCW as a punishment for non-2A issues. So here we sit thinking we have more 2A rights and we openly accept state granted priviliges as a right? That doesn't sound like progress to me. Why should we have to have a permit to exercise a right?

Do we have to have a state granted permit to CCT (Conceal Carry Talk)?

Ok, rant off.
 

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Ok...That's a great rant. Great Rants...I should say. Now the rants are over ~ What exactly do you do? Do you go to Pennsylvania Avenue and stand on the White House Lawn waving your Legal Defensive Carry Firearm in protest of the dumb Idiosyncratic State Gun Laws?
I can imagine that it hurts gosh awful bad to get simultaneously tackled by 5 Secret Service Agents who are going to mess you up really bad & then go up one side of your "life buckeye" & down the other.
Realistically, what exactly will change if you do that?
You're going to create "National Awareness" by getting your A$$ Kicked? That's getting old these days & nobody pays any attention to it.
Don't try climbing a tree in New Jersey and starving yourself until the NJ gun laws change because you'll be mighty darn hungry & too thin to carry anything concealed anyway. :rolleyes:

Congress will then say "OK Some Pro~Gun Guys really think it's time for National No Restrictions Shall Issue Interstate Total Reciprocity...we had better get moving on it." Special Meeting Of Congress.
It ain't gonna happen folks.
It will never happen that way in real life.
Things have to change exactly the way they are changing now.
State by State & by challenging individual State restrictive firearm legislation & through the court system. Maybe a SCOTUS ruling.
So it's natural and fine to get POed about Gun Rights that are wrongly granted as State privileges but, how exactly do you want to fight that fight?
I admit it....I'm getting too old for an outright revolution. I'll let you yong guys take to the streets for the New Boston Tea Party.

Also you can see how much blowing up abortion clinics has done to "stem the tide" of abortion. It's accomplished absolutely Nothing with a capital "N" ~

In the meantime there are not normally any large heavy chains keeping folks as captive prisoners in the restrictive gun States.
Earn & spend your money someplace where your Gun Rights are already "Shall Issue" granted.
People move all the time. They get new jobs & sell one house and buy another.
I've pulled up stakes and moved a few times in my lifetime.
I'm still alive & well. Those moves have not killed me.
Even if I got offered 3 times the amount of my weekly paycheck...I would never live in New Jersey or NYC or Washington DC.
As usual...just my opinion. You can flame me if you want to.
 
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