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Just some food for thought. Post Katrina Crime in New Orleans. Straight from YahooNews.

Murder Making a Comeback in New Orleans
By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer Tue May 9, 2:19 PM ET

NEW ORLEANS - Jane Anderson misses the old days — the days right after Hurricane Katrina when National Guardsmen with rifles roamed the street outside the New Orleans shop where she works. The days when there weren't many people around and crime was down sharply.

"I know it's still pretty safe," Anderson says. "But it doesn't feel that way. We're hearing about more things happening, more murders, more bad guys returning."

Murder is making a comeback in New Orleans.

The city had 30 murders this year through April. That is less than half of the 81 recorded during the first four months of 2005. But New Orleans' population these days is less than half of what it was before Katrina.

Also, while there were only 17 murders in January through March of this year, there were an alarming 13 slayings in April. That is the most for any month since the Aug. 29 storm, though still well below the monthly average of 22 in 2003 and 2004.

And May has gotten off to a violent start with three slayings, including a shooting that followed an argument in a Bourbon Street bar early Tuesday.

New Orleans Police Superintendent Warren Riley insisted at a news conference last week that murders and other violent crimes per person — that is, crime figures that take the reduced population into account — are down from a year ago. But that was based on January-through-March figures that do not count April's bloodshed.

"We are not seeing a return to the old days," Riley said. "This city is still the safest it has ever been."

Law enforcement officers acknowledge rising numbers of murders and shootings, and attribute them largely to turf wars among criminals returning to the city.

"Since April began we've had the return of individuals who have a legacy of violent crimes," said Jim Bernazzani, the

FBI agent in charge of New Orleans. "Prior to storm they were residing in areas that are now uninhabitable. So they are returning to the 20 percent of the city that did not flood and they are running into violent criminals whose turf it is."

The post-Katrina murder stories are haunting echoes of pre-Katrina New Orleans.

In February, Jermaine Wise was shot to death in a parked car on Mardi Gras. On March 19, a man got out of a car during a traditional New Orleans jazz funeral procession and opened fire, killing Christopher Smith. That same day, a shotgun-wielding robber killed Michael Frey as he handed over his wallet in the Fauborg Marigny, a neighborhood near the French Quarter.

"I don't think things have changed at all," said Dr. Micelle Haydel, an emergency room doctor at Charity Hospital, where most trauma victims in the city are taken. "We're still getting the shooting and stabbing victims. It's still happening, and it will get worse as people return."

In neighboring Jefferson Parish, the murder rate is way up. The population has fallen from about 450,000 before Katrina to around 370,000, according to the parish president's office. But there were 22 murders though April, compared with 28 during all of last year.

"Crime is down 23 percent overall," Jefferson Parish Sheriff Harry Lee said. "But we have almost as many murders now as we had all of last year and the year isn't even half over. I really believe it's drugs and turf from people moving in."

New Orleans had a fearsome pre-Katrina reputation for violence in the streets around its housing projects and in other poor sections of town. Drugs were said to be at the center of most of the killings.

In 2004, New Orleans had 264 murders, or 56 per 100,000 people, according to the FBI. That compares with seven per 100,000 in New York and a national average of 5.5 per 100,000.

In the weeks after Katrina, the military and various law agencies patrolled New Orleans and much of the city of nearly a half-million people was emptied out. Police reported just nine homicides in the fourth quarter last year — the three months after Katrina — compared with 64 for the last three months of 2004.

For many residents, the new, lower homicide toll and the reassurances from law enforcement provide little comfort.

Louis Gurvich, who owns a company that provides businesses and homeowners with security guards and private patrols, said business is thriving.

"There is no crime in parts of the city because there are no people there. And there is less crime everywhere. We used to have five or six murders a weekend," he said. "But if a crime happens near you or if you hear about crime, your perception is that it's getting bad quickly."


It is sad that so many had to depend on the National Guard for protection. However, when you disarm the law abiding citizens and we all know that happened, only the criminals have guns and chaos reigns supreme.

The other part of the article that struck me was the murder of the young man who was handing over his wallet. Just goes to show that compliance with criminal demands usually make you DEAD.
 

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Sad commentary. Especially the police chief trying to defend it saying "We are not seeing a return to the old days," Riley said. "This city is still the safest it has ever been." I don't think anyone believes that. I guess he can keep dreaming, after all, he's the chief.
 

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Jane Anderson misses the old days — the days right after Hurricane Katrina when National Guardsmen with rifles roamed the street outside the New Orleans

Anybody else shuddered at this?
 

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More food for thought. These crime stats are from 2003.

Violent Crimes, 10 worst cities, 2003
10.Oakland 1,432 violent crimes per 100,000 people
9.Dallas 1,438
8.Nashville 1,471
7.Memphis 1,603
6.St. Louis 1,838
5.Baltimore 1,900
4.Las Vegas 1,945
3.Miami 1,995
2.Detroit 2,007
1.Atlanta 2,065

Murder rates, 10 worst cities, 2003

10. Chicago 21 murders per 100,00 people
9. St. Louis 21
8. Oklahoma City 22
7. Philadelphia 23
6. Oakland 27
5. Las Vegas 30
4. Atlanta 36
3. Detroit 38
2. Baltimore 41
1. New Orleans 57


Just wanted to post these if anyone is interested.
 

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Miggy said:
Jane Anderson misses the old days — the days right after Hurricane Katrina when National Guardsmen with rifles roamed the street outside the New Orleans

Anybody else shuddered at this?
It really catches you eye doesn't it?
 

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Well, numbers are kinda funny at times....could the New Orleans statistics be a bit skewed since not all the "Good-Guys" have returned? There were a crap-load of low-lifers that stayed there to pillage the place....sorta increases the percentages of BGs as a whole!:redface:
 

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Well, numbers are kinda funny at times....could the New Orleans statistics be a bit skewed since not all the "Good-Guys" have returned? There were a crap-load of low-lifers that stayed there to pillage the place....sorta increases the percentages of BGs as a whole!:redface:
We had a crapload of BGs decide to relocate and help our local BGs pillage Atlanta.
 

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It really catches you eye doesn't it?
Like an icepick:blink:
 

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I heard somewhere...don't recall where...that in some areas where NOLA residents fled to during and after Katrina registered increases in crime.
 
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