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Well, you know how that ride-along with the K9 didn't really result in anything noteworthy to watch from a dog-trainer's POV? Guess what? I got an email last night from the Lt that they are doing the K9 monthly training tomorrow for their department. I was invited to meet up at 0800 and then go to the training! I thought I was only going to get to observe (which would still be an amazing opportunity), but he said I could "can take part in training with the dogs ( ex. tracking, building searches and area searches)"

WOOHOO!!!!

And then, just to make the day perfect, local PD arranged a ride-along w/ one of their dual-purpose K9s for when I get back from Canada. YAY!

Ok, so, any advice for tomorrow's training? I'm assuming jeans and a t-shirt since it's outdoors and I will most likely be covered in dog hair and sweat by the end of the day?
 

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Ok, so, any advice for tomorrow's training? I'm assuming jeans and a t-shirt since it's outdoors and I will most likely be covered in dog hair and sweat by the end of the day?
Did you forget to add blood to the list?

Yeah...they invited you because their bad guy is on vacation and they need new meat for the dogs to train on. Jeans and t-shirt? Well.......wear plenty of padding, maybe a mattress, and some quilts? A heavy winter jacket? Have fun training tomorrow!
WOOHOO!!!!
You betchya! Go get 'em tiger! We're all rootin' for ya!
Of course I'm just kidding....right?

Okay...seriously though...congrats. I can tell you're excited about it. Great opportunity.
 

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I have this sudden image of greyhounds chasing a rabbit. Be careful Bunny! :tongue:
Yes, thanks. *grin* I seriously hope they didn't mean it like that. I haven't had any training in being the tackling dummy / fake bad guy. Maybe I should change my nickname from Bunny to something else. Pronto! lol
 

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Yeah...they invited you because their bad guy is on vacation and they need new meat for the dogs to train on. Jeans and t-shirt? Well.......wear plenty of padding, maybe a mattress, and some quilts? A heavy winter jacket? Have fun training tomorrow!

You betchya!
Great, a mattress? Well at least now it'll be easier to conceal my Sig. :tongue:
 

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You could be the one in the big padded suit. In the immortal words of Norm on Cheers, "It's a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear."
 

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Great, a mattress? Well at least now it'll be easier to conceal my Sig. :tongue:
Yeah...it's all fun and games until you turn and run.
Thanks for running with my humor...no pun intended. LOL!
 

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Wear comfortable, but old clothes. BDU's, loose fitting jeans work best. Comfy boots too if you got 'em. If your laying tracks, you will get muddy.

Limit junk hanging off you, like cell phones, knives, guns etc. If you are wearing the sleeve, some dogs like to hang on you and these items will get hung up, knocked off, or worse. If you wear rings or bracelets, don't. Trust me on that one.

You might want to pack a small cooler (water!) for yourself, most training areas are fairly remote.

Also, insider advice... if you take a bite, fight with the dog. Don't hit or kick, but move your arm around. This keeps the dogs mouth engaged. If you do not struggle with him, he is going to be prone to letting go and finding another place to latch on. That is bad... trust me on that too. If you fall during a catch, present that sleeve as fast as you can. The dog wants to bite the sleeve.
If you want to know how to beat the dog and avoid the bite, you can PM me, but I'm not going to tell you anything. LOL.

Other than that, Pay attention and have fun.

Above advice is from a decoy who may or may not have appeared on national TV and may or may not be the official decoy for a national champion K9 team.
 

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I think you may be wearing the 'padded arm'...:gah:...it's an insteresting experience. :yup:
 

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Thanks, Sixto! Actually, they didn't say anything about being a decoy, so I'm assuming I may end up being the "hide" portion of "hide and seek" when the K9 is searching or clearing a building. I believe it's at the range, which is the local FOP lodge, which is where I'm told they do alot of the K9 stuff as well. It's remote and there's a bit of property out there. No shade and a broken Cheerwine machine, so I usually pack some gatorade :)

Roger. Wedding rings and necklace OFF. Thanks!

Do you think it would be ok for me to bring a pen & notebook to take some notes for myself? And possibly a camera? Or would that just be presumptuous and rude?
 

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Thanks, Sixto! Actually, they didn't say anything about being a decoy, so I'm assuming I may end up being the "hide" portion of "hide and seek" when the K9 is searching or clearing a building. I believe it's at the range, which is the local FOP lodge, which is where I'm told they do alot of the K9 stuff as well. It's remote and there's a bit of property out there. No shade and a broken Cheerwine machine, so I usually pack some gatorade :)

Roger. Wedding rings and necklace OFF. Thanks!

Do you think it would be ok for me to bring a pen & notebook to take some notes for myself? And possibly a camera? Or would that just be presumptuous and rude?
Notes are fine, camera should be... but ask first. If you are going to be the hiding person, you will wear a sleeve for the bite. Patrol dogs work for the bite.
You'll understand this when the time comes... Really hold on the the dowel rod. You do not want to let go.:bier:

And work that sleeve. Pull it up as high as you can and rock it back and forth. That is million dollar advice right there.

If you are nervous about the bite work, don't be. Its a very neat experiance.
 

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and do not forget to post a AAR
 

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If you get to wear the bite sleeve have fun and work the dog on it. I got to be the "Dummy" a few times for MWDs at my last duty station. It's impressive what a 65lb K9 at a dead run can generate for force when he/she hits the sleeve/jacket. Most importantly HAVE FUN Bunny!!!
 

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Ditto what Sixto says, from a former K-9 handler. A good friend of mine [another K-9 handler] had his watch destroyed when the dogs tooth went through it. Work that sleeve hard so the dog doesn't want to let go. If he lets go he may go after something you don't want to have bitten. It's a pretty good adrenalin rush watching that dog come at you full speed and trying to feed him the sleeve. One more thing, do not put any part of your body in front of the sleeve when the dog is coming at you. They typically bite the first thing they can grab onto.
 

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Good luck with the training. I am sure you will have fun. Many years ago we had a dog that we used to let run at night in my work yard. Barker and Biter. One mild fall day dog get lose during the day and charges a customer. The customer is scaried frozen,dog jumps up and onto his arm and bites down. Custoemr then starts screaming for help. We grab the dog and he lets go. We look at the customers arm nothing (no breaking of the skin) between the thick leather coat and the dog bit into the customers watch. Never so happy. Nothing ever came of it. Phew
 

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Thanks, Sixto! Actually, they didn't say anything about being a decoy, so I'm assuming I may end up being the "hide" portion of "hide and seek" when the K9 is searching or clearing a building.
When I was active duty (back in the dark ages :wink:) we'd help with training the USSS Uniform Division "bomb dogs".

They'd ask us to hide the explosive samples, removing them from a box and then placing them. The idea was to try and minimize any familiar scent (like the handler's) on the samples. Something like that may be what you'll be asked to help with.

No matter what you do, it's always great getting to watch a well trained dog work.
 
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