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Please not a glock bashing topic just give your thoughts on the subject, thanks. I have read a couple of articles lately about Glocks for a carry gun(if I could carry in this state). The source has been training folks and forum comments and they make senese to me. I don't like Glocks because I never could shoot the .45 Glock I owned and gave to my son.
Recently I have thought about a 9mm Glock to carry because they tell me they are very reliable, the ammo will be cheaper than my .45 stuff and it seems to be a nice shooting package. I compared my dislike with that of a carpenter and his tools. A craftsman can do allmost any job with lousy tools and make it look ok. A so so wood worker seems to think he needs the very best tools. I am trying to say maybe a nice Glock 9mm with lots of practice for defensive shooting only may be just the ticket. What do you guys think, appreciate your input.
 

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FortyFive,

It's all in what you want to do man. Personally, I dislike Glock (they don't seem to point real well for me (the few that I've held anyway)) and something about not having either a LONG DA pull, or a manual safety makes me a little ill at ease. Just MHO.

If you want to do something along the same lines, you could pick up an XD, which hover right around the same price, and to me anyway are a little safer because of the grip safety. Again, IMHO.

Goodluck in deciding what to pick up...

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Thanks Jim, appreciate the input. Know what you mean about the safety issue.
 

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I would never buy a tool that I didn't like. I carry my CZ PO1, and love it. I could carry a G17 - I qualified Distinguished Expert ,(POST), with one, but I don't like them, the feel, the trigger, nada, so i carry what I know works well, and feels right to me. Use what works for you.
 

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I'm probably an exception on this, but I love the way a Glock trigger feels. Especially the short, snappy reset. But I can't get comfortable with a Glock. It's like Massod Ayoob says, "The good thing about a Glock is it's easy to shoot. The bad thing about a Glock is it's easy to shoot. " It's the latter part that bothers me. If I need to leave my gun in the car for a short period of time, I don't mind putting a loaded Sig, H&K, revolver, or XD for that matter in a glove box, console, or under the seat. But I am really uncomfortable doing that with a Glock. All it takes is that pen, screwdriver, a tube of lipstick your wife lost in the car, etc. to get in that easy Glock trigger. For longer periods of time, I would unload, so it's a non-issue.

I have simply removed my holster with the gun in it; that makes the Glock as safe as any but it requires an easy on/easy off holster.

Another issue with Glock is the unique grip angle. Almost every other modern handgun grip is very close to the 1911 grip angle and if you go back and forth between most guns and a Glock, you may have shoot high/shoot low problems, esp. if you point shoot.

Then there's the grip treatments that "fix" the grip angle. The fix is functional, but all I have seen are, how shall I say this tactfully, I know - ugly.

Although it doesn't appear so, I really like Glocks; I've got a 9mm in every size except for the G34 which I used to have.

This wasn't what you asked, but if you could try a H&K P2000 LEM, you may find your Glock question solved.
 

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Fortyfive,
I carry a glock 19 every day it the best carry gun i have bought yet. I could not be happier with the gun it shoots great very reliable and easy to conceal and with 16 rounds u wont feel out gunned. I am not a bit worried about the safty issue i feel the gun is very safe if carried in the proper holster. I think glock make a very good reliable gun :biggrin:
 

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The 9MM is the best Glock, and IMO the 19 is the cream of the crop.

Shot lots of ammo thru Glocks, but only tolerate them, however when I carry one it is the 19.
 

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I'd probably go with Tangle on trying the HK LEM modification, or maybe the SIG DAK trigger system.

If you prefer the .45, you could carry that (a ton of people on this forum carry that way), or you could pick up an HK USP or USPc and carry it Con 1 like a 1911...

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Thanks for the response, it gives me time to research what everyone has brought up. Glad I got this many!!!
 

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I'd probably go with Tangle on trying the HK LEM modification, or maybe the SIG DAK trigger system.

If you prefer the .45, you could carry that (a ton of people on this forum carry that way), or you could pick up an HK USP or USPc and carry it Con 1 like a 1911...

--Jim
Oooooo - the Sig DAK; I forgot all about that. That has got to be the sweetest, smoothest, DAO trigger made. I like it even better than the P2000 LEM I suggested! I must have had a senior moment to forget the DAK. :tongue:
 

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Hey 45,we're not through with you yet. I don't own a Glock. I don't especially like the Glock:--trigger--ergonomics--looks--plas sis-sissity(that is really a word)I swear--and other things that I can't even put into words. My CCW and competition weapons are ALL 1911's. But for what it's worth,I have shot probably 350-500 rds. out of Glocks in 6 different configurations/calibers. They ALL(in my expierance) shoot well. They are strong,very sturdy,easy to get parts(but you will probably never need them) easy to modify,can wear all kinds of sights,there is an endless supply of accessories and support gear,and come in enough calibers to interest any body. I am close friends with 10 or 12 people that bet their life on them everyday. These guys are "independent contractors" working in far off places. The guys at my club that own them, love them. Glocks are just like 1911's in that you gotta love them to carry them. If you love the Glocks,buy one (in any caliber offered)and carry it. Just don't try to convince anybody that it's pretty.--------- P.S Let me know when they start making a mid size,single stack,in 10mm. If so,I take back everything that said.--------
 

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Now that my brain seems to be re-engaged, a sigpro would be worth looking at too. I had mine out of the safe just the other day and was re-impressed with it. Nice DA and SA trigger; nice size; very competitive in cost; high quality.
 

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you need to buy what you can shoot effectively. Or feels natural to ya. I don't hate Glocks , but they don't fit my hand as well as other pistols do. Lots of great options out there for carry.
 

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Geez, just when it looks like I might run off at check into something other great ideas flow in, what a bunch of great shooters. :smile: Appreciate the hard effort, I am listing the thread so it will be simpler to ask for donations. Just kidding. Thanks very much guys. :smile:
 

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First you need to see if a glock will point for you well... I seem to be a lucky personin that i can go froma glock to 1911 to wheelie and never lose point of aim.

if glock wont point then it wont shoot for you .. 2nd to look at the xd you can get 17 in it i think in the 4 inch version its round size of a Glock 19.

When i carry a Glock i carry the fullsize 17 the minis wont shoot for me i had the terrible exp with my 36 couldnt hit broad side of barn so it went..

But i can shoot the xd9mm subcompact just fine must be finger grooves... Hk is great to with the lem trigger feels different but nice till you get used to it (only shot 50 or so in a hk with lem)

As for sig no experance but now after spending lots of money on guns ole slabsides is what i pack 95% of the time
 

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FortyFive I know how you feel man. Having so many personal and legal limitations on carry guns can shoe horn you into something you normally wouldn't be interested in.

I too was afraid I'd have to just get a Glock and learn to like it. But don't give up. Take a few months to explore what's out there, it's a huge market.

See there's a gun just to have a gun, and then there's a carry gun. A carry gun is a lot harder bill to fill.

I started with a list of about 12 possibilities for a primary carry gun and whittled them down on this board and from other sources until I found one I could live with and I'm happy with it, even though it doesn't excite me as much as some other guns do. But the fact remains it is a good carry gun and it just fits into my lifestyle.

Try making a list of 10-20 alternatives to the Glock and then whittling them down. It will take you a while.
 

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a gun just to have a gun, and then there's a carry gun. A carry gun is a lot harder bill to fill.
Euc has that nailed!

Richard - I doubt I will ever want and buy a Glock - my SIG now is close to my carry "nirvana'' but - one thing I can say is that I know a good many folks who do carry, and often 19's, plus - many of those and 17's too get used in IDPA to VERY good effect.

Let's put it this way - if I was given a 17 or 19 - I would NOT turn it down! It may not ever be considered as my carry piece but I know I could enjoy shooting it enough to not let it grow hairs!! :silly:
 

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I own a G17. I've been arrested with it too. :)

That said, Murphy strikes at unexpected times and places. I have one both to show to the 4H kids and to remain proficient in what may well be the weapon I happen to have available at the minute disaster strikes.

When I have the luxury of choosing, I'll bring my Sigs. When it's first gun to the finish line and I don't have time to grab something else, I have no religious preference with Sig, HK, Glock, Beretta, etc as long as they operate.

I'll wish I had my Sig, but....
 

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Sold my SIG 229....bought a Glock 23...never looked back...it shot/pointed/felt "perfect" in my hands...and I love em to this day..

I currently carry a Glock 30 in .45....w/ 2 G21 13 round mags in a CTAC.

This is a highly personal decision...dont let ANYONE tell you buy this its great..or buy one of these cuz its ultra cool and costs $900...

Try to rent what you are looking at..and or borrow from friends before buying. You also need to keep in mind comfort, and cost of gear to start carrying a different pistol. Not to mention the time spent to get proficient enough to carry it.
 
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