We've eaten there. Good food and vibe.

 

WTF is happening? Madness. The local news says that they have a suspect who was tagged at a boat ramp, pulling his boat. If this is the shooter, then he’s grandly stupid. Running up the inter coastal waterway in a boat,,,,,gee, where will the authorities never think to look for a me? Certainly not at a boat ramp,,,,,, I’m not sure that a brutal, public execution of someone this crazy would have any substantial effect on the next potential whack job. There are folks much too eager now, to go on out, kill a few folks and then off themselves. I’m not sure how to combat that mentality. But I suppose a brutal, public execution would be a testing ground worthy of consideration. Somebody is tampering with the water supply or something. What else would explain this level of crazy?

 

WTF is happening? Madness.

For many, there doesn't seem to be anything stopping them.

Particularly in a lunatic area where the "defund policing" mantra is loved and upheld as some sort of good, at least so far as I can tell, it sure seems that what once were lower-grade violent crimes have escalated. Many more people getting stabbed, shot, beaten, at least reported in the news (if not strictly showing up in the often-fiddled-with statistics).

Seems to be many sources of egging-on (in the media, online 'chatter' on social media sites. Seems to me that once the whole 2020 Covid mess occurred and the year of arson/rioting and general criminality of 2020-2021 was largely history, a great deal more vindictive and occurred in situations where previously they would not have.

A lot of psychos out there. The idiot who was released and went to Kenosha during the rioting specifically to kill ... and he ended up attempting Rittenhouse's murder. A lot of that sort of crap going around.

A lot of people who've "had enough", I believe. And for someone who was on the edge before, often violent, who steps past that "had enough" line, ... well, there's little to stop the person going all-out.

Lots of little robberies ending with people handing over everything meekly, only to get stabbed, shot or beaten anyway despite having done so.

And a number of the same places (ie, DC, Chicago, NYC) going full vindictive on people who would attempt self-defense or defense of another, where the State comes with "guns blazing" to take down the damnable surviving victims who dare to lift a finger in defense. (Daniel Penny, for example; LE who stopped Michael Brown in St. Louis a decade ago; LE who stopped George Floyd.) End up as "the one left standing" following a crime successfully defended against, one is likely to find himself the target of the rioting mob, or the State if still standing after all of that.

Armed robber flash mobs all over the place, in various easy-on-criminals urban centers, with their lovely smash-and-grab stuff. As highly-publicized as such crimes are, I would not be surprised to find that these inspire a great number of young, would-be robbers and up-and-comers to take their shot at "street" greatness.

Lots of drugs on the streets. By some estimates, more than ever. Which fuels a lot of turf spats, retaliation on competitors, people caught in the crossfire.

Many, here, grew up with the "Sticks and stones might break my bones, but names will never hurt me" ditty when we were raised. Anymore, too many seem to think that even a disliked look or statement earns a death sentence.

With a lot of crime paying healthy apparent dividends to the little cretins, even if only "street cred".

It's an ugly time, right now.

 

I’ve got a ferry reservation for next week, heading to Ocracoke. It’s an easy, 2 1/2 hour ride and folks are always chilled out. Once you get that far, you know you’re on vacation. Like kickin it with your peeps at a dockside restaurant. Ruh row. Until some looney tunes opens fire on the ferry. On the beach. At the brewery or bait shop. This ain’t your daddy’s Walmart drive by anymore. We’re taking crazy mayhem to the islands! Shrimp cocktails and massacres! A new level of relaxation! I wonder what my grand daddy would say about this world.

It’s not paranoia if they’re really out to get ya.

 

We need to ban boats.

 

And no one returned fire?

 

I've read on other forums the guy was a vet with mental issues, completely delusional. Maybe a traumatic brain as well.

 

Great. Now the lefts call to ban veterans from gun rights will come out again.

 

None of these events are increasing my desire to comply with "no weapons allowed" policy signs.

 

During the 1980s a movement started that preached we needed to stop warehousing people in mental institutions and insisting on mainstreaming mental patients back into their communities. Many are not fully capable of functioning without help or supervision. Many require regular medications to control behaviors and symptoms. Many are recipients of disability benefits; some have court-appointed guardians to manage their affairs while some have no one at all (including more than a few with appointed representatives who take the income and ignore the responsibilities). A significant percentage of our country's "homeless population" are those who might have been institutionalized in prior decades.

Naturally, when new incidents arise the individual is typically found incapable for legal responsibility and there are seldom treatment options in lieu of prosecutions, so the result can be "rinse and repeat".

The question seems to be: Which is the more humane response; allowing the mentally ill to wander through life without interference, or providing a safe environment with treatment, supervision, and needed medications?

Perhaps at some point in time the overall safety of society and communities will be a part of the response.

 

Just caught this on the news feed:

Suspect charged in NC mass shooting that killed 3, injured at least 8 others

A North Carolina man faces multiple first-degree murder charges in connection to a Sept. 27 shooting at a riverside restaurant.

www.yahoo.com

Not much in detail or any answers yet, but they do have one in custody.

 

It's simply nutso.

 

America has, thats for sure.

 

I’ve eaten there many times many years ago. They have added on quite a bit, and back then it was more a family seafood restaurant deco of the 40’s, now from the pic’s it appears more of a party landing.

Sad it happened. Guess it’s too soon to mention the fact he is prolly on SSRI’s being he was dx with PTSD right?! That stuff makes folks crazy, if it were my world I’d vote for no guns for folks on SSRI’s so reckon many can be glad it’s not my world.

 

NBC is reporting the killer used a SBR w/silencer and folding stock.

 

Oh hell…..

 

LE has detained someone. From his boat, shootings occurred at roughly 9:30pm and he fled (on the boat) in a certain direction, detained at 10pm at his boat at a dock after "matching the description" of the attacker.

They've apparently charged him with multiple murders. Some news reports saying he was a military veteran, a trained sniper, that the gun was a short-bbl AR15 with a suppressor (all the 'ammo' the anti-RKBAers need to come gunnin' for everybody's rights again).

Suspect in NC restaurant shooting identified, charged with murder after 3 killed, at least 5 wounded

Nigel Max Edge, 40, faces first-degree murder charges after allegedly opening fire from a boat into a North Carolina restaurant, killing three people.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/devastating-officials-detail-southport-waterfront-shooting-that-killed-3-injured-8-during-music-show/

 

We've eaten there. Good food and vibe.

I’ve eaten there many times many years ago. They have added on quite a bit, and back then it was more a family seafood restaurant deco of the 40’s, now from the pic’s it appears more of a party landing.

Sad it happened. Guess it’s too soon to mention the fact he is prolly on SSRI’s being he was dx with PTSD right?! That stuff makes folks crazy, if it were my world I’d vote for no guns for folks on SSRI’s so reckon many can be glad it’s not my world.

Wife and I were going to stop there last night for a couple drinks but for whatever reason we decided to ride over to Holden Beach instead. Glad we didn't go now. We normally stop by every time we go to Southport.

Here is a picture I took from the deck of the American Fish Company looking out across the Cape Fear River from 2021.

 

The man that did the shooting wrote a couple of books! I looked at the first one on Kindle, it was about himself.

 

I remember a time when people such as this would have been diagnosed and institutionalized. No opportunity to commit acts of public mayhem, no access to weapons, no access to potential victims, under constant monitoring. We need to return to that time.

 

I miss the days when people had a moral compass, respected others' opinions regardless of whether they agreed, remembered manners such as "please" and "thank you," and did not constantly spew violent rhetoric and vitriol at people 24/7.

I really miss those days......

 

When the heck was that! Seriously, I remember the Reagan elections and those were not a love fest. All the way back to the 1860 election there was rhetoric and vitriol. The papers portrayed Lincoln as an ape!

 

People miss those kinder, gentler more understanding days because they’re a figment of imagination.
https://www.history.com/articles/charles-sumner-caning-cilley-duel-congressional-violence

 

This shooter was previously able to function more "normally" (whatever "normal" is these days) but, went on a downhill slide.

I think that what is happening now is that so much publicity has been on some super high profile assassinations and othee mass shootings in general.
So...it seems to those individuals (that are already on the fringe) that shooting at people and places is the THING to do. And for whatever twisted reason.

I don't think that the phenomenon is anything more than national attention Monkey See Monkey Do - for those who are borderline mentally anything or those who are specifically agenda driven to the extreme.

And I think that anyone who is wanting to die following any action is pretty much initially unstoppable, save for a good guy with a gun.
Or a good guy willing to sacrifice all to physically subdue.

Forget Firearms.
An sick or angry person could run into any crowded business, restaurant, etc with nothing more than an ax, butcher knife, machete (whatever) and accomplish a decently high kill or injury count until they finally either get stopped, killed, or they self-unalive.

 

This shooter was previously able to function more "normally" (whatever "normal" is these days) but, went on a downhill slide.

I think that what is happening now is that so much publicity has been on some super high profile assassinations and othee mass shootings in general.
So...it seems to those individuals (that are already on the fringe) that shooting at people and places is the THING to do. And for whatever twisted reason.

I don't think that the phenomenon is anything more than national attention Monkey See Monkey Do - for those who are borderline mentally anything or those who are specifically agenda driven to the extreme.

And I think that anyone who is wanting to die following any action is pretty much initially unstoppable, save for a good guy with a gun.
Or a good guy willing to sacrifice all to physically subdue.

Forget Firearms.
An sick or angry person could run into any crowded business, restaurant, etc with nothing more than an ax, butcher knife, machete (whatever) and accomplish a decently high kill or injury count until they finally either get stopped, killed, or they self-unalive.

The sooner someone shoots back, the sooner the carnage ends. If no one shoots back, well, we see those results day in and day out.