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Hello,

I have canned a idea I had to buy a AR-15 for the time being and as such I have a few hundred on deposit at my local gun store. I would rather have a small concealable 45 at the present time.

I WANT rather than NEED this gun so it may not be carried, but I want the option to if I decide.

Here is what I have seen but was hoping others would chime in with any other options.

I like the Glock 36 ALOT and as of now am leaning that way.....even like the 30, but it may be too big. I want to spend no more than $600. I held a Kahr CW9, it was ok, liked the trigger in that I currently have a PM9 and if going with a Kahr would rather have the P45 but dont want to spend that much.

So, what else it out there for about what I want to spend? Oh yeah, not thinking 1911 platform, too pricey and I like DAO/Striker Fired, etc better.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Hello,

I have canned a idea I had to buy a AR-15 for the time being and as such I have a few hundred on deposit at my local gun store. I would rather have a small concealable 45 at the present time.

I WANT rather than NEED this gun so it may not be carried, but I want the option to if I decide.

Here is what I have seen but was hoping others would chime in with any other options.

I like the Glock 36 ALOT and as of now am leaning that way.....even like the 30, but it may be too big. I want to spend no more than $600. I held a Kahr CW9, it was ok, liked the trigger in that I currently have a PM9 and if going with a Kahr would rather have the P45 but dont want to spend that much.

So, what else it out there for about what I want to spend? Oh yeah, not thinking 1911 platform, too pricey and I like DAO/Striker Fired, etc better.

Thanks in advance!
Sig P250 45ACP CMP.
 

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If you eliminate small 1911s (which you did) and want to stick with name brand guns having a decent reputation, the Glock 36 and the Kahr P45 are pretty much it. The Sig P245, which has the same 6+1 capacity, is probably going to be too large and too expensive, given your $600 price limit. The polymer Sig P250 comes in a small .45 version, but is a brand new gun on the market and somewhat untested as yet.

Personally I'd get the Glock.
 

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If you eliminate small 1911s (which you did) and want to stick with name brand guns having a decent reputation, the Glock 36 and the Kahr P45 are pretty much it. The Sig P245, which has the same 6+1 capacity, is probably going to be too large and too expensive, given your $600 price limit. The polymer Sig P250 comes in a small .45 version, but is a brand new gun on the market and somewhat untested as yet.

Personally I'd get the Glock.
Yeah, I think I am already there as you said, but was hoping for other options. I have held a P250 and it didnt really do anything for me. Also, I have a S&W 4516-1 that I bought in 1989 or so and that sort of covers me on the "SA/DA" front for a gun roughly the same size as the Sig.

Looks like my criteria points tothe 36...any thoughts on a 30? (I know, greater capacity but the size may be too different...I cannot seem to find a dealer with both in stock).
 

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...and if going with a Kahr would rather have the P45 but dont want to spend that much
Why not a Kahr TP9? This gives you a longer barrel, full grip and a extra round in the magazine, yet is still small and light enough to carry. For some reason these seem to sell for less than the P45... around $525 or so.
 

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You can get a Springfield Armory 1911 for your price range. You mention small and concealable. Their Gov't models have a 5 inch barrel. However, they can be concealed with a good holster. I would suggest you consider the 1911 platform. Thin is the best thing for concealment and the 1911 does that. Length of the barrel is less important than having a thinner gun IMO. Good luck to you on your search.
 

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Why not a Kahr TP9? This gives you a longer barrel, full grip and a extra round in the magazine, yet is still small and light enough to carry. For some reason these seem to sell for less than the P45... around $525 or so.
You are right I overlooked the TP althoguh it may be a bit large for CCW.
 

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You can get a Springfield Armory 1911 for your price range. You mention small and concealable. Their Gov't models have a 5 inch barrel. However, they can be concealed with a good holster. I would suggest you consider the 1911 platform. Thin is the best thing for concealment and the 1911 does that. Length of the barrel is less important than having a thinner gun IMO. Good luck to you on your search.
All of my current carry pistols have the same controls (no manual safeties) and all have DAOor similar triggers and would like to keep it that way if possible. If I were to go to a 1911 platform a Springfield would be at the top of the list.
 

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I don't know off hand... I'm looking to add another pistol too. Right now my eye is on the G36 as well. I really like the feel of the slimmer G36 over the G30 and being a glock, it's gonna function as expected. I started thinking I wanted a 1911, but after pricing a few I found that, I could get two quality pistols for the price of one good 1911. I'm either gonna get the Kahr PM9 and the G36, or the G26 and the G36 as a xmas present to myself...

Good luck with your search... My suggestion would be the G36.:hand10:
 

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The PM45 is nice. But i tend to be a fan of Glock So that is how I would go.
 

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Taurus PT145.

.45 ACP

10+1

Shorter than the Glock 36

Manual thumb safety

This might be worth looking into. I recently bought one and love it.
 

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I don't know off hand... I'm looking to add another pistol too. Right now my eye is on the G36 as well. I really like the feel of the slimmer G36 over the G30 and being a glock, it's gonna function as expected. I started thinking I wanted a 1911, but after pricing a few I found that, I could get two quality pistols for the price of one good 1911. I'm either gonna get the Kahr PM9 and the G36, or the G26 and the G36 as a xmas present to myself...

Good luck with your search... My suggestion would be the G36.:hand10:
I feel the same re: 1911 prices. Also, the 30 and 36 are identical except for .14 of an inch of thickness....and the 30 will give me 4 more rounds and ability to use longer 21 mags....so now I am thinking about a 30 since .14 shouldn't really make that much of a difference....I thing.
 

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I feel the same re: 1911 prices. Also, the 30 and 36 are identical except for .14 of an inch of thickness....and the 30 will give me 4 more rounds and ability to use longer 21 mags....so now I am thinking about a 30 since .14 shouldn't really make that much of a difference....I thing.
You wouldn't think that .14" is a big difference...but it is. Especially if you plan on IWB carry.

I have both a G30 and a G36; the G36 is a particularly confortable carry pistol, and almost disappears in an IWB holster. The G30 is a bit big for IWB (Although I do carry it that way occasionally), and is noticeably heavier as well.

I think they are both great pistols, and am readily recommending both; but if you want a slim pistol for carry...the G30 ain't it. If you want a 10+1-rd, compact, reliable .45, however...the G30 is the way to go.

Hope this helps.
 

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How does the 36 work with the + 1 mag plate if you have experience with it..that way I would have 7+1 and still slim?
 

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Have you looked at the M&P .45c?
 

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My favorite small .45 in the hand was the Para Ordnance Warthog .45 Nighthog model w/night sites. It was quite accurate. If it had been as dependable as my Springfield xd45c I'd still have it. Alas, it wasn't and now I don't.
Check out its dimensions. If I remember correctly, it's about the size of the S'field XD9sc.
I think Bersa makes a semi small .45.
 

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I went and held a 30 and a 36 at lunch.....not much different so I think I am going to go with the 30....plus it has a rail where the 36 does not.
 

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During the course of the last couple of years I went from my 1911's to my Glock-36 as my EDC. I absolutely love the gun...get it, you won't be sorry.:image035:
 
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