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Just took place about an hour ago. My mother is home alone with the dog (GSD that has years of consistent bite training) and there is a knock at the door, some black guy. The dog is going nuts. We have a lot of burglaries in the neighborhood and frequently get sketchy scammers that come to the door so my mom is well rehearsed in not answering the door and not going outside to unfamiliar people. She calls the non-emergency police number in regards to this guy, standard procedure with these types of occurrences. The guy stood at the front door for a minute or two then left.

Our neighbors across the street are very elderly folks. Apparently the same guy that came to our door knocked on theirs, they brought them outside to talk to them about landscaping, something that happens often in this area and most of the time they are guys just looking for a job but still not something to lower your SA on. In this case it was obviously a distraction in hindsight. An accomplice goes through the front door. They have a smaller safe mounted inside the closet on a shelf (most likely because bending down for them is not an easy task) and the perp was able to cut off the bolts and take it which had $200K worth of valuables. All this took place in roughly a 10-15 minute time span. The cops never showed up to the area in time. Took them 25 minutes to get there due to heavy traffic during rush hour is my assumption.

What to learn from this: 1-staying inside your house is one of the best and safest things to do, don't fall into the trap. 2- make sure you have a quality safe that is bolted down correctly.

Something to note was that these guys were not intimidated by the signs or intense barking of a large dog and my guess is they are semi-professionals of some sort. If they were home invaders that dog could have potentially saved my mother's life since she doesnt trust herself with guns. As we all know a large dog is a good deterrence to preventing an easy forced entry but to people that don't know, unless your dog is trained properly it is not going to bite the perp. Trust me I can't tell you how many dogs I've seen come out on the field or even in their own home that will not bite (though their owners swear by it), as the saying goes "all bark no bite". Just something to keep in mind additionally.

Moral of the story, never let your SA down!
 

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I guess I'm not gonna be a victim,unless I call you for a job the answer is NO,your not getting past my front door because I'm in it,and your not entering thru any windows without setting off an alarm.
 

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I guess I'm not gonna be a victim,unless I call you for a job the answer is NO,your not getting past my front door because I'm in it,and your not entering thru any windows without setting off an alarm.
They were robbed about 10 years ago when they weren't home and installed some sort of high tech alarm system, didnt think it could ever happen again...well just goes to show what poor SA can do to you
 

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They have a smaller safe mounted inside the closet on a shelf and the perp was able to cut off the bolts and take it which had $200K worth of valuables. All this took place in roughly a 10-15 minute time span.
What they actually had, there, was a storage cabinet with a door. Pretty poor planning for the value of stuff they wanted to be kept safely.

Better option, by far, would have been to purchase a 60" tall safe and simply use the top shelves of it. Problem solved, and fatal weaknesses would not have been bought and paid for in spades.

What to learn from this: 1-staying inside your house is one of the best and safest things to do, don't fall into the trap. 2- make sure you have a quality safe that is bolted down correctly.
Yup.

Visitors who are there for my benefit call in advance and I know they're coming. The safe is solid, hidden and is bolted to the foundations. The safe is protected by alarm, armed homeowner. Works very nicely.
 

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I've had strangers ring my bell - usually college do-gooder kids trying to get me to sign some petition for their cause du jour. I will happily talk to them from a second story window - front door stays closed.
 

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If you are going to get any of my time at the front door, you better be wearing a Girl Scout uniform and accompanied by your mom. If not, don't bother knocking.
Either way, my Rhodesian Ridgeback (now 8 mos and weighed 107# today) is right there with me. He's not figured out the protection angle just yet, but he's curious.
 

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...having filled out hundreds of police reports...yes, that is germane to the story and only holds offense for those predisposed to looking for same...part of life these days to mention race...in a multi-racial society...
Totally agree. And I think if some German had shown up at my door, that would be worth mentioning. Especially since I don't speak German.
 
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...having filled out hundreds of police reports...yes, that is germane to the story and only holds offense for those predisposed to looking for same...part of life these days to mention race...in a multi-racial society...
Because posting on an anonymous forum is akin to filing a legal document.....lets try to make sense with our arguments.
 

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$200,000 in their closet. Bet they wished they'd spent a nickel for a safe deposit box.
 

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The story doesn't exactly sound right. 200K in a minimally secure safe near the door? The
BGs just stumbled on it?

Possibilities-- 1) Insurance scam 2) kids couldn't wait for their turn 3) someone's nose is growing.

Who in their right mind keeps 200K worth of anything in a small safe in their home? I mean, at least
be sensible and bury it in the backyard in PVC and concrete.

Thank G-d I'm too poor to have such problems. I'm gonna hang a sign on the door, "THIEVES WELCOME."
"KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT BOYS."
 

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The story doesn't exactly sound right. 200K in a minimally secure safe near the door? The
BGs just stumbled on it?

Possibilities-- 1) Insurance scam 2) kids couldn't wait for their turn 3) someone's nose is growing.

Who in their right mind keeps 200K worth of anything in a small safe in their home? I mean, at least
be sensible and bury it in the backyard in PVC and concrete.

Thank G-d I'm too poor to have such problems. I'm gonna hang a sign on the door, "THIEVES WELCOME."
"KNOCK YOURSELVES OUT BOYS."
That's just too darn funny Hop, unfortunately I'm in the same boat recently.
 

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Who keeps $200K worth of anything in their home? Especially in a small box? Spend a couple G's on a real safe, or get a safe deposit box. That's crazy.

The entire contents of my house and garage aren't worth anywhere near that...including vehicles.

One thing in FL that I've been surprised by is the number of people that have large safes in their garage, in plain sight, and leave their garage doors open in the evening. Just saw one down the street yesterday when me and the kids were out walking. Granted it was huge and not sure how anyone would do much with it. If it won't fit in the house, at least cover it up. Seems like too much of an advertisement to me.

A buddy of mine in Virginia was telling me about a man up there whose safe was stolen. They backed a truck right up to the side of his house, used a sawsall to cut through the exterior (vinyl sided house), studs, and sheetrock right around his safe and pulled it right out of the house and into the back of the truck and took off. That's someone who knew exactly what and where it was.
 

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...my concern with a "safe for all to see" is that the folks who want it bad enough may come for it and hold a family member hostage/abuse them till they open it...if they make it into the house...I'd rather them get my stuff and leave...it's becoming more and more important that our business stays OUR business...
 

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Who keeps $200K worth of anything in their home? Especially in a small box? Spend a couple G's on a real safe, or get a safe deposit box. That's crazy.
Its not a bad sum of valuables if they can all fit in proper safes. But then, the "all eggs in one basket" concept needs to be paid its due respect as well. There are things like fire, folks backing up into the building to bust-out the safe, etc.

A buddy of mine in Virginia was telling me about a man up there whose safe was stolen. They backed a truck right up to the side of his house, used a sawsall to cut through the exterior (vinyl sided house), studs, and sheetrock right around his safe and pulled it right out of the house and into the back of the truck and took off. That's someone who knew exactly what and where it was.
That someone certainly had no need to know. A good warning to the wise.

My safes have always been against interior walls, hidden from view, bolted to the foundation, and not divulged. Can't say they've always been "industrial" grade, but they've certainly never needed to contain $200K in valuables either.
 

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Many of the older generation have a distrust of banks, and therefore will hoard large sums of money and valuables. And to some, $200 grand isn't a large sum. (I wish that were my case!) Why someone would keep large sums of cash on them or valuables in the home without due precautions is beyond me. But here in S. FL many do. Maybe it's a northern retiree thing. Someone robs my house will get maybe $20 in coins and my Timex watch.
 
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