Perhaps this brief demonstration will help. I found this on youtube. No relation to me, or anyone I know of.

 

Make sure your using a good rigid 1.5" gun belt,the narrow dress belts can allow the holster to come up,also depending on where you put the clips in the holes adjusts degree of cant,for my Combat Commander I like about 15 degree forward cant

 

That Crossbreed video was a great commercial for the Garrett Silent Thunder. Even when he was offscreen putting it on you could tell there something to it, which mirrored my experience as well. Granted mine was trying it on in a store and after trying everything else, had to lower my pants to "install" it.

I ended up with the Garrett Silent Thunder which is a grab-n-go IWB that you just slip in place with one hand while you're walking toward to door. I know I'm coming across as messing all over your new holster which isn't polite and my message is for those undecided out there.

All that said, an awful lot of folks really like their Crossbreed and push them as hard as I do what I like. You bought it and once you figure out how to get it on I'm hoping you like it.

 

Thanks for that

I like the look of the Silent Thunder. I may still buy the CB for my XDM, and the ST for the 1911.

Glad this question was asked, was curious myself.

 

I have a holster that is exactly like the CB but made by a guy named Tommy Thies. I love it (I actually have several of them) and I have not had any of the problems you are reporting. I think your problems could be related to your belt.

OldLincoln, I like the look of that Silent Thunder holster. I may have to invest in one sometime. It looks very well made.

 

I think that your questions are relevant for any IWB holster with belt clips. The holster clips go over your belt. Like dukalmighty said, get a good belt that will fit snugly in those clips. The belt, your pants, and your body will create retention and hold it close to your body so you don't have extra movement.

From the Crossbreed FAQ page:

It goes down over the outside of the belt and hooks the bottom edge of the belt via a 90 degree lip. It is a VERY stable clip as it puts the weight of the gun on the belt and not the pants. It offers the best support of all the clips and is reasonably discreet.

Good luck! I have 2 Crossbreed holsters and love both of them. I also keep a Remora handy when a belt isn't an option for me though.

 

Yeah that is a good video. I usually put my belt on, leave my button and fly open, insert holster clips over belt in correct place. (Almost exactly where his is in the video) then button and zip up, and clasp belt.
When I first got mine, the leather was very stiff and it took several months to get it formed to my body. (I didn't wear it every day) If you want it to form to your body quicker, you can take a wet towel and wipe the back of the leather (that touches your skin) really good and get it pretty wet. It needs to be more than just damp. Wear your holster dry and it will be the shape of your body!

Good Luck!

 

Thank you, I need to do that. For osme reason I just thought the belt ran THROUGH the CST instead of under it. But like I said earlier, this is the first time I've ever seen an IWB holster in person

 

Sorta like a truss. You may be too young to know what that is but it's a device you wear to relieve a hernia. I tried to use one to keep from getting drafted back in the sixties. I put it on when I went for my physical and sure enough I went right to the front of the "special" line. The Dr asked how long I had worn that truss so I picked a good number. "About 5 years," I said. So he stamps FE on my file and told me to report to room 7. I thought I had it made so I asked him what the FE stood for. He said it stood for Far East because anyone that could wear a truss upside down for five years could certainly ride a camel.

 

I've had the crossbreed holster for about 2 months. It's ugly but man is it comfortable and is getting more and more comfortable the more I wear it. I bought it for my beretta px4 compact and it conceals great for a medium sized conceal gun.

Beginning tucking the holster inside pants. When the two clips are close to belt, push them down till they reach bottom of belt. Only the clips show outside of pant. Use a thick/sturdy belt.

Great holster!

 

I also have a Theis holster - love it. I think I may also look into the Silent Thunder.

 

One more plug for the Cross breed. I carry a 1911 which is about as big a concealed gun as you would want. I finally broke down and spent the $$ for a really good and wide belt. Huge difference. I am 5'11" and about 230 so I have plenty of muffin top. My carry pants are one waist size bigger. I put my CB on the belt ( belt already strung thru the pants) before I put on the pants. The 1911 is that last thing I put on. If I had less muffin it would be more comfortable or I could adjust it so it carries lower but if I need it I want to clear leather easy. Also mine grips my 1911 so tight I can shake the holster upside down and it will not come out. If feels better the more you wear it.

 

Love my CB Supertuck! I carry my XD-45 in it. Very comfortable. I've layed on my back on a hard surface while working before, and didn't have any problems with it digging into my side. The leather backing goes above the sights on the gun and is a major reason for why it's still comfortable while sitting.

 

Like Flasher and OldLincoln have said, the CBST and other hybrids like it aren't necessarily the best choice, when it comes to individuals who must disarm and re-arm, particularly in compromised/awkward positions (such as in-vehicle).

What makes these hybrids so comfortable, conceal so well, and also so stable for the active user also makes them somewhat harder to put on - all the moreso when you have a hybrid that somewhat loses its retentive capabilities when it's not physically on-body (i.e. more the CBST than the Comp-Tac Minotaur).

Sure, the Garrett Silent Thunder/Slim/Slim II does make it much easier for the user to arm-up or re-arm: even if you're stuck inside a subcompact vehicle, it takes all but a little shift of your hips, and you can literally jam the holstered pistol - and completely safely, at that - down your pants leg and have it positively latch on to your belt.

But at the same time, the Garrett isn't without compromises, either. While I find my Silent Thunder Slim II (for my Kahr PM9) to be the most comfortable full-hardshell-kydex holster I've ever tried (and it is actually so comfortable that it's my preferred long-drive combo), it should still be said that it is a full-hardshell holster: some may not find it as comfortable. Similarly, it has only one clip, which can cause it to shift, particularly for more active users and/or those whose belt its clip doesn't quite mate perfectly with.

No holster is perfect for all occasions. :smile: There's always going to be one or another that's better/worse for the job. :smile: And yes, I also own a CBST (as well as a MTAC), among other holsters. I'm not making this post to say that one holster is better/worse than another - only to point out that your lifestyle needs may well affect your holster choice.

 

What makes these hybrids so comfortable, conceal so well, and also so stable for the active user also makes them somewhat harder to put on - all the moreso when you have a hybrid that somewhat loses its retentive capabilities when it's not physically on-body (i.e. more the CBST than the Comp-Tac Minotaur).

I've had a CBST for three years now, worn everyday/everywhere and haven't noticed this. Not sure that it matters; there's not much use for retention in an IWB when it's off the body.

 

^ If you're trying to put the holster on or take it off in a vehicle, for example, a more secure retention of the firearm, without the holster being on-body, makes for an easier (and safer) time. :smile:

I haven't altered my CBST in any way - it's as I've received it, from CB. This same "lessening of retention off-body" is a well known concern with the CBST, and is something that is noted in many different communities. I actually first saw it on XDTalk, and took note of it prior to delivery. I think that with some retention adjustment on my end, I could make this a non-issue, but I think that no matter what, given the hybrid construct, it is going to feel a little looser when there's not more mass backing up the flexible leather portion.

I'm a holster nut. :embarrassed: :blush: My view is that there's no one ideal holster - just items that do certain jobs better. For me, my CBST and MTAC take turns when I'm looking for a slimmer profile than with my usual EDC holster. One of the two typically works better with certain pants and cover clothing, and that's what I end up wearing.

 

I have a medium retention on mine and I can only get the pistol to 'drop out' if I hold the rig upside down and give it a vigorous snap; that's about it. I've clipped and unclipped this thing enough times to wear out the original kydex clips (CBST ships with steel clips now) and have never had a problem. I can see where flexing the leather will increase/decrease pressure against the molded kydex (which is where retention is controlled) but not to a degree that safety is compromised.

I suspect this "well-known" problem is similar to Glocks being "well-known" for kB. Or maybe I just got a really good one.

 

^ It's possible that yours carries more retention - I honestly don't know. Certainly, if an end-user wishes for more, they could easily heat up the Kydex a little, just like the instruction letter that CB includes with every order says.

Is this a "problem" on the legendary scale of Glock (or, for that matter, any other polymer pistol) KBing? :lol: I don't think so - it's not a bunch of hysterical people running out, screaming "you're gonna die!" :lol: Rather, it's just users of the item coming forward with their honest assessments, saying, "don't worry about it, that's normal behavior for not just this specific holster, but for this entire genre of holsters." I, for one, do not see it as a problem, rather, that it is a simple trait of this type of holster, the hybrids, and is something that the end user needs to be aware of - and which most people who buy the CBST are indeed aware of...but there are exceptions:

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Like I said above, I have many holsters, including both the CBST and the MTAC hybrids. I use my different holsters for what they do best, for none are inherently perfect and suited to every task, to everything I ask of them. :smile:

 

My wife will only shoot a G26. She has tried numerous .380's and she does not shoot well with it. She is dead on with the G26. My wife is about 5'9" and 140lbs. She has been carrying the G26 in her purse and I keep telling her that's not a good idea. I am thinking that this Crossbreed Super Tuck might work for her. The only issue is that she does not wear a belt with her jeans or shorts. Will this holster work without a belt? Thank you, Steve.

 

It really doesn't work well without a belt, none of the IWB with clips will I don't think. I never wore a belt with jeans or shorts - until I started carrying a firearm. The weight of the gun will pull down on the waist of the pants without the belt to help support it. I've considered trying a Remora for those days I don't have belt loops on my clothes, but I haven't yet. Both the beltman and crossbreed have gun belts that are prettier IMO for women. I hate wearing something that looks like my husband's belts.

 

I actually bought one of these as well as the custon belt with the velcro. I am awaiting it to arrive and will post a review once it does.

 

I have a Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe and I got the metal clips and also ordered a set of J-Clips as well. I prefer the J-Clips instead of the metal ones. I also bought some Velcro pads as well as my holster was make a squeaking noise and the pads reduced the squeaking noise considerably. Be sure to follow the care instructions as well.

 

I have both the CB Supertuck and the Galco King tuk. They are both almost exactly alike but the Galco has better retention. The wife has the CB and a Theis for her Ruger SR40c. She likes the CB best so far. The Remora looks like a fine holster but I don't really see the need for the expense. These guys work just fine.