Ordered on 9/4 and received today 9/25! These are Carl's from cchoslters.com. He had to order the LCR model for my gun, and he still got them to me within 3 weeks. They both have slim profiles and conceal very well with just an untucked shirt. I also have a set of IWB loops to change out for the 1911. I can't wait until they are both fully broken in. All told, $128 shipped.