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I would be glad to sign, but can someone tell me why a NJ politician would care two bits about the opinion of someone who cannot vote for or against him/her?

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I would be glad to sign, but can someone tell me why a NJ politician would care two bits about the opinion of someone who cannot vote for or against him/her?

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I agree they wouldn't care, but signing the letter and flooding their office will show that it has lots of support. I doubt they will even look to see where it came from.
 

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Originally Posted by miklcolt45
I would be glad to sign, but can someone tell me why a NJ politician would care two bits about the opinion of someone who cannot vote for or against him/her?

What am I missing?
You're not missing anything. Your signature won't mean much by itself, but is an essential part of a bigger effort. Please consider the following:

Some of you may be familiar with Revell v. Port Authority. Gregg Revell, who was flying from UT to PA, missed his connecting flight in Newark, NJ. Mr. Revell had legally brought a handgun with him in his checked baggage. Mr. Revell’s bags ended up in the lost luggage section of the airport. He finally found his bags, after the remaining flights and all busses had left. He checked into a hotel near the airport and attempted to get on the next flight to PA the following morning. When he declared the handgun while checking his bags, he was arrested and charged with unlawful possession of a handgun. Examples like this are why it is important for everyone to get shall issue in NJ.

Since NJ does not distinguish between resident and non-resident applications, this would mean that anyone from any state would be able to apply for a NJ Permit.

The bill must make it out of the Law and Public Safety Committee in order to be heard on the floor. Bills can remain in committee indefinitely if there is not a public demand for them to be released. Petitions like this are part of that public demand.

Jon Corzine, NJ's anti-gun Governor was just ousted in the last election. The anti-gun legislators are feeling the pressure, especially with redistricting coming up after the 2010 census. This is the best environment in NJ in a long time to push the issue.

Lastly, on the cusp of McDonald V. Chicago, which is on the Supreme Court docket for March 2nd, it is a very shrewd move to have a bill ready to be voted on. None of us know for sure what the momentum might be like after that decision. We should "prime the pump" as much as possible.

If you would like to read the bill, this is the link:

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/A1500/1282_I1.PDF

Thank you Singh007 for taking the lead on this, and thank you to all who have signed and will sign (I signed last night). We are all in the same boat and should support our fellow gun owners in other states that are fighting for shall issue.

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Thank you very much for favoring me with your E-mail respecting my proposed Concealed Carry legislation.

As you probably know, I am the prime sponsor of this legislation. As I enter my eighth term in the Assembly, I will be introducing this proposal for the eighth time. Not once has it ever received the courtesy of a hearing before the relevant committee.

Nonetheless, I am delighted to hear from folks advocating for freedom. Far too often, the only voices we Legislators hear are those arguing for bigger, more intrusive government, or those demanding something they have not earned, at the expense of their neighbors.

Unfortunately, New Jersey is one of the small minority of states which denies its citizens their fundamental right to bear arms in their own defense. Sadly, far too many of our legislators believe, passionately, that only governmental officials can be trusted with firearms. And, for the time being, these folks control the levers of power.

While your post makes a compelling case for this proposal, the studies and statistics you cite, which unequivocally demonstrate the merits of this legislation, simply make no impression on those whose opposition is rooted in fear and ideology. I truly believe that we will not see much in the way of advancement of freedom here in New Jersey until such time as we replace the present group of anti-freedom officeholders with advocates of freedom. Towards that end, folks who support freedom need to seek office, and freedom advocates need to vote for – as well as financially support – candidates who agree.

Nonetheless, I have confidence that, even in New Jersey, common sense will, at some point, prevail. Sooner or later, the merits of this legislation will become so patent that not even folks like Jon Corzine and Loretta Weinberg will dare oppose it.

Again, thank you very much for taking the time to write.

mpcarroll

PS: delighted to see someone from NY taking an interest in the freedom of NJ residents, but you probably need almost as much help in your state as we do in ours.

mpc
 

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Thank you very much for favoring me with your E-mail respecting my proposed Concealed Carry legislation.

As you probably know, I am the prime sponsor of this legislation. As I enter my eighth term in the Assembly, I will be introducing this proposal for the eighth time. Not once has it ever received the courtesy of a hearing before the relevant committee.

Nonetheless, I am delighted to hear from folks advocating for freedom. Far too often, the only voices we Legislators hear are those arguing for bigger, more intrusive government, or those demanding something they have not earned, at the expense of their neighbors.

Unfortunately, New Jersey is one of the small minority of states which denies its citizens their fundamental right to bear arms in their own defense. Sadly, far too many of our legislators believe, passionately, that only governmental officials can be trusted with firearms. And, for the time being, these folks control the levers of power.

While your post makes a compelling case for this proposal, the studies and statistics you cite, which unequivocally demonstrate the merits of this legislation, simply make no impression on those whose opposition is rooted in fear and ideology. I truly believe that we will not see much in the way of advancement of freedom here in New Jersey until such time as we replace the present group of anti-freedom officeholders with advocates of freedom. Towards that end, folks who support freedom need to seek office, and freedom advocates need to vote for – as well as financially support – candidates who agree.

Nonetheless, I have confidence that, even in New Jersey, common sense will, at some point, prevail. Sooner or later, the merits of this legislation will become so patent that not even folks like Jon Corzine and Loretta Weinberg will dare oppose it.

Again, thank you very much for taking the time to write.

mpcarroll

PS: delighted to see someone from NY taking an interest in the freedom of NJ residents, but you probably need almost as much help in your state as we do in ours.

mpc


At least you know your letter was actually read.
 

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He clearly states this will be attempted again -

"I will be introducing this proposal for the eighth time."

The more people we can get to sign this makes a better case for him to at-least try again for the 8th time.

Tell your friends and family members to sign this petition the more voices we have the stronger the case Assemblyman Carroll can build for the Bill.

Spread the word. Its time for change in New Jersey.
 

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It is an autogenerated response... I got the same thing for GA. Yours was NY.

Buts its still cool to get a receipt.
 

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Signed, but I don't believe this is how NJ will become shall-issue. It'll be through the courts via McDonald and future cases.
 

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Signed and stated a short opinion on NJ's need to change its attitude due to the perception of corrupt state politics.

I was in upstate NY briefly. Sadly, NY state law mandating gun control on county and statewide basis (long wait for resident status & application procession time, four in-county references plus three out of county references [notarized], bureaucratic red tape) made it difficult to enjoy my stay there besides terrible economic factor, so I bailed out to live in Utah.

Hopefully a victory for the pro-2A in McDonald v. Chicago will force CA, NY/NYC, MD, WI, IL, MA, and other states and major cities to respect RKBA.
 
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