Not all attackers are human....

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Kenny256

Discussion Starter · Oct 17, 2009

Me and my wife moved into our lovely new home about 4 months ago. We live in a nice neighborhood and everything so I do feel pretty safe.

About a month ago I was taking a walk with my wifes dog....she weighs about 10 pounds....
Me and the dog are walking down this long stretch of road when this LARGE pitbull walks into the middle of the road from a side street.

I instantly know that something is going to happen, so I start walking back the way we came, when the dog takes off running toward us.

I do NOT have my gun on me.. I should have been atleast OC, which I normaly do. so I go for my knife (a spyderco chinook 3) the dog lunges for our dog who is now hidding behind me trying to run. I kicked the attacking dog a few times in the head and throat which brought his attention to me and he starts going for my face/throat.

I could bring myself to open the blade and stab the dog so I just used it as a Kubitan and just started pounding the top of the attacking dogs head all the while landing some kicks in.

Eventually he kind of backs off and I can see he is bleeding on top of his head and is acting kind of hurt. Eventually a person from a house near by comes running out with a bat and the dog takes off.

So I call my brother who is an LEO in my area and make a report about some crazed dog running around the area.

Long story short, always come ready even if it is just a walk with your dog something WILL happen!

Had I of had my gun on me Im sure I would have just shot the dog,( I have lived on a farm my whole life shooting an animal is no problem) but to me cutting a living creater was a lot harder to do.

Next time I wont heasitate, and next time ill have my gun.

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ExactlyMyPoint

· #2 · Oct 17, 2009

Wow. Glad you are OK. Another example of where the aggressor sets the rules. I know I wouldn't want to hurt any animal, but sometimes they leave you no choice.

Any idea who the dog belongs to? That dog should not be allowed to run free and the owner needs to be held accountable.

Kenny256

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 17, 2009

The dog has not been found... He prob ran home and the owner has kept it locked up for now...

It does have a red collar on so the police know that.

skot

· #4 · Oct 17, 2009

Glad you are ok.

Dogs are definately a valid concern. I set out on a hike last weekend with my family and considered only bringing a J Frame loaded with snake shot. I was surprised at how many people with dogs we encountered on the trail. We had no issues with them, but everytime my 4 year old daughter had to pass one I felt better knowing I brought my 9mm.

Ram Rod

· #5 · Oct 17, 2009

These days......no matter where you are...or where you're going, or what you're doing...there's an ever increasing possibility that something, or someone is intent on ruining your day and violating your peace. It's become a fact of life (and I hope my wife posts about her experiences while walking with her sister on community property park/athletic complex this past week) as to how you can't seem to go anywhere nowadays and mind your own business. It irks me sometimes how our liberties and our pursuit of happiness seem to be at risk with every turn. Life aint what it used to be in this country, and the moral devaluation present in some of the population is to blame as well as a few other items I won't mention here.
Back on track with the non-human threats we might face daily........my advice other than carrying would be having some pepper spray or even carrying a baseball bat or walking stick. I wouldn't be apprehensive to taking a large dog down in calf roping style and cutting it from ear to ear if that's what it took and if that's all I could do.....but I really don't want to get that up close and personal with an animal on a mission. More words.......try to refrain from kicking at a dog......this would generally mean loss of flesh, pain, blood loss, or it taking you down to it's level by way of your clothing, and when you go down, you are at a disadvantage......#1 for the shock of hitting the ground, #2 for not being able to see more than 180° in a single plane, and #3 limited movement since your back is against the wall (ground). Animals intent on prey won't tell you to get up and fight again either.

Next time I wont hesitate, and next time i'll have my gun.

Now you know, and you did well in this circumstance. Glad you and your dog made it out alive and well.

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Kenny256

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 17, 2009

Ya, he was like 60 yrds away from us to begin with.

Ever have that moment when you just KNOW something is going to go down...

The second I saw that dog I knew...

RoadRunner71

· #7 · Oct 17, 2009

Live and learn. The bad experiences teach us the most. Glad you are OK.

Maverick7340

· #8 · Oct 18, 2009

Take the pitbull test. Pick the dog that looks like the dog you saw. Is it a pitbull?

Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

mr.stuart

· #9 · Oct 18, 2009

I can relate to your situation. In my area, a lot of bubba's like to carry their half-breed pit bulls in the back of their trucks. Some kind of macho thing. These men will always tell you,'oh, don't worry,the dogs know better than to get out of the truck'.Yeah,,sure. We live in a nice neighborhood.We walk our Boxer and Springer 5 to 6 days a week. A few months ago, I went around a corner and there were two 70-90 pound half-breed pit bulls in the back of a parked truck. I did an about face with my dogs as one of the pits started climbing out of the truck. We got away ok. Good for me and my dogs and good for the bubba's dogs. If you have a dog that can injure a human or another dog, how can you be so stupid to not keep the dog contained? I am glad you and your pup are ok. Stay on guard.

RETSUPT99

· #10 · Oct 18, 2009

I'll bet you take no more dog walks without your firearm...lesson learned.:yup:
Glad you're OK.

mpd563

· #11 · Oct 18, 2009

I was forced to shoot an attacking pit bull once. He dropped after running about 30ft. I shot him with my Kel-Tec 380 loaded with Gold Dot HP's.

Colin

· #12 · Oct 18, 2009

Black bears and cougars are the biggest concerns near my house and we live 15minutes from Downtown Vancouver, hence my reason for keeping my 229 or 220 nearby.

limatunes

· #13 · Oct 18, 2009

Kenny256 said:
I could bring myself to open the blade and stab the dog so I just used it as a Kubitan and just started pounding the top of the attacking dogs head all the while landing some kicks in.
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Had I of had my gun on me Im sure I would have just shot the dog,( I have lived on a farm my whole life shooting an animal is no problem) but to me cutting a living creater was a lot harder to do.

I'm a little confused by your statements here. You said you COULD bring yourself to open the blade but didn't? Why not?

If you mean you COULDN'T bring yourself to stabbing the dog than why do you think you could bring yourself shoot a dog when you couldn't stab him? What is the difference? Weren't you in fear for your life?

Not trying to pick a fight, just curious as to your reasoning and wording here.

Kenny256

Discussion Starter · #14 · Oct 18, 2009

Couldnt would have been the correct word...
I dont know... Stabbing is so much more...personal?
A gun is just a pull of the trigger....
I just couldnt bring myself to actually do it...so I just beat him with it.
I have killed coyotes attacking my dogs before it wouldnt have been any different...I just couldnt stab him....dont really know how to explaine it.

Yes I was afraid...this dog was the real deal.

BradyM77

· #15 · Oct 18, 2009

This is the reason I always carry pepper spray. Dogs intent on doing harm to you or your pets usually get persuaded not to with one good spray.

Kenny256

Discussion Starter · #16 · Oct 18, 2009

Ya mace would be a good idea, my wife has some...but maybe some for me to carry would be good as well?

Bark'n

· #17 · Oct 18, 2009

Kenny256 said:
Ya mace would be a good idea, my wife has some...but maybe some for me to carry would be good as well?

I always carry OC pepper spray as a less than lethal option as well as flashlight which is perfect size as a Kubotan impact weapon.

I feel it is beneficial to have a couple less lethal options if you are going to carry a gun. JMHO.

Maverick7340 said:
Take the pitbull test. Pick the dog that looks like the dog you saw. Is it a pitbull?

Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull

Very cool test. It took me 3 attempts to get it!

adroitus

· #18 · Oct 18, 2009

Kenny256,

Your reaction to the idea of stabbing the dog isn't uncommon (and your own explanation of your reaction as being "too personal" isn't either.) I read something about knife fighting that said it is very difficult for most people to actually insert an object into another person when it came right down to it. Most of us have an innate aversion to penetrating another's body in violent way. I believe they said most knife wounds are cuts, not stabs. Pulling a trigger is usually a pretty impersonal, abstract action. You don't see the bullet, you don't have to exert yourself to cause the wound.

Bark'n

· #19 · Oct 18, 2009

adroitus said:
Kenny256,

Your reaction to the idea of stabbing the dog isn't uncommon (and your own explanation of your reaction as being "too personal" isn't either.) I read something about knife fighting that said it is very difficult for most people to actually insert an object into another person when it came right down to it. Most of us have an innate aversion to penetrating another's body in violent way. I believe they said most knife wounds are cuts, not stabs. Pulling a trigger is usually a pretty impersonal, abstract action. You don't see the bullet, you don't have to exert yourself to cause the wound.

+1 on that, Very true!

gunfan

· #20 · Oct 18, 2009

I have NO aversion to protecting myself, or my loved ones. I have stared death in the face and have mustered the courage; saying to myself, "To #ell with this! I'm coming out of this alive, and in one piece!" Stab, cut, shoot... it's all the same to me! If the animal is attacking, or viciously threatening to do so, that's sufficient provocation for me!

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