Just came across this article
NRA: Pro Second or Government Lapdogs? Price of Liberty
I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are.
NRA: Pro Second or Government Lapdogs? Price of Liberty
I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are.
NRA: Pro 2nd or government lapdog?
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They are only good points because they are true.
On some issues the NRA does good, on other issues they play dead.
The NRA is an organization with over 4 million members, there is no other gun rights group with the clout that they have.
That makes it the target to shoot at. If the enemy cannot make a frontal attack then they will make an internal attack from within. I have thought that some of the NRA has been subverted for years. For them to back legislation that would remove legal rights to anything is wrong. They compromise too much and they say that it is needed. I call BS on that.
As far as I am concerned, it has come to the point that it is no more than a list of people that are concerned about their gun rights enough to act on them or do something about them.
This current administration has even called the members "subversive"and "right wing" and not representative of the population.
I wonder if it's all just a show and if they really do fear them that work in their favor,while those that oppose it secretly smile and pat each other on the back for a job well done because they have them right where they want them.
Like any other country in history, we don't lose all of our rights at once. We lose them a bit here and a bit there, not so much at once that you might take notice, and then one day you wake up and wonder where they all went.
The NRA is like two different organizations at times. They do very well when it comes to training. On political matters they act too much like politicians and they give up too much ground.
On some issues the NRA does good, on other issues they play dead.
The NRA is an organization with over 4 million members, there is no other gun rights group with the clout that they have.
That makes it the target to shoot at. If the enemy cannot make a frontal attack then they will make an internal attack from within. I have thought that some of the NRA has been subverted for years. For them to back legislation that would remove legal rights to anything is wrong. They compromise too much and they say that it is needed. I call BS on that.
As far as I am concerned, it has come to the point that it is no more than a list of people that are concerned about their gun rights enough to act on them or do something about them.
This current administration has even called the members "subversive"and "right wing" and not representative of the population.
I wonder if it's all just a show and if they really do fear them that work in their favor,while those that oppose it secretly smile and pat each other on the back for a job well done because they have them right where they want them.
Like any other country in history, we don't lose all of our rights at once. We lose them a bit here and a bit there, not so much at once that you might take notice, and then one day you wake up and wonder where they all went.
The NRA is like two different organizations at times. They do very well when it comes to training. On political matters they act too much like politicians and they give up too much ground.
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I agree the NRA sometimes plays both sides of the fence. With 4 million members (out of how many gun owners?), it has much more clout than GOA which boasts over 300k members. I like GOA, but the NRA wields a bigger stick. Unfortunately, the NRA, like much of the GOP has worms eating it from the inside out. If left unchecked, the whole tree could die.
I have stayed away from the NRA for quite some time after reading the stuff about the 'brady bill'. the are a self proliferating group, if they don't scare the hell out of us that 'they' are trying to take our guns away, then they don't have the $$$ to pay their high ups.
I prefer to support more grass root orgs. I beleive in the beginning nra was on the right track, but I believe now they are just crooked politicians themselves...
I prefer to support more grass root orgs. I beleive in the beginning nra was on the right track, but I believe now they are just crooked politicians themselves...
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I go back and forth on the NRA. Unfortunately, they are the largest lobbying group we have. Sometimes they are OK and other times, well. That being said I am a member.
I am also a member of GOA. They seem to be gaining momentum like others have said in this post but I think reading some of their stuff they are near the fringe at times.
Be Safe,
NosaM
I am also a member of GOA. They seem to be gaining momentum like others have said in this post but I think reading some of their stuff they are near the fringe at times.
Be Safe,
NosaM
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Here are a couple more Pro-2A anti-NRA web sites:
NRAWOL - A critical view of the NRA's compromises
Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters
NRAWOL - A critical view of the NRA's compromises
Keep and Bear Arms - Gun Owners Home Page - 2nd Amendment Supporters
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I have fielded phone calls from this organization and they have been crying the sky is falling, the sky is falling. I also came to realize that they have been pulling on the rope too many times.
They are in business to sell memberships and magazines in my mind, and their track record of turning blind eye proves it. I no longer see the NRA as anything other than a money maker and they'll not get mine.
I will support GOA and the Jews for firearms.
EDIT: I sent the link to the article referenced by the OP with a request for them to send me factual proof that the author is wrong. I'll see if they man up!
They are in business to sell memberships and magazines in my mind, and their track record of turning blind eye proves it. I no longer see the NRA as anything other than a money maker and they'll not get mine.
I will support GOA and the Jews for firearms.
EDIT: I sent the link to the article referenced by the OP with a request for them to send me factual proof that the author is wrong. I'll see if they man up!
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From a Canadian perspective I find the comments funny, up here the anti-gun people think the US government is the NRA's lapdog! I have no doubt they make a risk benefit analysis of each issue and focus on those they can win, while trying to limit the damage of those they think they can’t win. Bismarck once said: “Those that love law and sausages should never watch either being made”
I think it’s ok to have more than one pro-gun organization, it means more people attacking the issue and more resources, the key of course is not to squabble amongst themselves and not to rehash the same ground. We have 2 major pro-gun rights organizations up here, National Firearms Association (NFA) and the Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) they generally work together on major issues, kind of like tag team wrestling! Both organizations want to achieve the same goals but take slightly different paths to get there, as long as you are not tripping over the other guy and impeding their efforts, it’s all good.
The NRA warts and all is better than no NRA
I think it’s ok to have more than one pro-gun organization, it means more people attacking the issue and more resources, the key of course is not to squabble amongst themselves and not to rehash the same ground. We have 2 major pro-gun rights organizations up here, National Firearms Association (NFA) and the Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) they generally work together on major issues, kind of like tag team wrestling! Both organizations want to achieve the same goals but take slightly different paths to get there, as long as you are not tripping over the other guy and impeding their efforts, it’s all good.
The NRA warts and all is better than no NRA
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Until about 1972, the NRA printed one page a year in the American Rifleman about gun control laws proposed. They were more into target shooting and hunting. The roots of the NRA go back to the Civil War when most of the Blue Coats could not hit a barn from the inside.
In 1871 some officers decided to make American a Nation of Riflemen again.
But they were blindsided by the communist world revolutions, the Roaring Twenties gangsters and like Jews in Germany, as long as their '03 Springfields and hunting were left alone they went along to get along.
A fellow named Neal Knox turned them around, starting in Cincinnati.
They have and do good things, the bullet ban was going to pass and make 100% of the guns illegal. The NRA wrote it so only bullets that were not and never were marketed [KTW, etc] were banned.
They have gotten better and it seems much of the criticism comes from sore losers. Yet they are not perfect, the best way to change them is from inside.
Join NRA for a national voice, join your state association, suypport JPFO, and RMGO and any of the other groups. But don't cut your nose off to spite your face.
Just renewed my NRA membership via DC's NRA link. I'm unemployed, short on funds, and it counts as my brithday gift. The DC link only cost's $25 (vs the normal $35). I feel bad I'm not paying the $10, but I'm grateful I have a way for another year to be one of the members the NRA can list as a supporter / number in their ranks.
The NRA may not be perfect, but given what they do, and what it means to the public at large, they are worth the price IMHO.
The NRA may not be perfect, but given what they do, and what it means to the public at large, they are worth the price IMHO.
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