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It is unbelievable how out of control this is getting.

This country is now stripping one person's rights away because another person allegedly said the word "gun".

The father did prevent the authorities from confiscating his firearms but it still resulted in him being disarmed.

N.Y. DAD’S PISTOL LICENSE SUSPENDED OVER SOMETHING HIS 10-YEAR-OLD SON SAID — AND IT COULD BE 8 YEARS BEFORE HE GETS IT BACK
Apr. 4, 2013 3:20pm Jason Howerton

A New York father has had his firearms all but confiscated after the Suffolk County Pistol License Bureau suspended his pistol license indefinitely over a perceived threat made by his 10-year-old son and two of his classmates at school.

N.Y. Dad?s Pistol License Suspended Over Something His 10-Year-Old Son Said ? and It Could Be 8 Years Before He Gets It Back | TheBlaze.com
 
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I can not find words to describe what I'm feeling...
 
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"Later that day, Mayer got a call from school officials informing him that his 10-year-old son and two other students were talking about going to a boy’s house with a water gun, “paint gun” and a BB gun. There had reportedly been a school yard pushing incident the day before involving the boys, excluding Mayer’s son, and they were seemingly talking about getting even in some way."

I'm probably going to get roasted here but if indeed a teacher heard the three students having this conversation, they were well within their responsibility to bring it to attention. There is a recent thread here about a BB gun related death. If I were the father of the student being threatened and the students had followed through with the threat, I'd be beyond pissed that someone could have stopped it. Now, everything that happened with the father of the boy in question and the Peoples Republik of New York-ifornia is beyond reprehensible.
 

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"Later that day, Mayer got a call from school officials informing him that his 10-year-old son and two other students were talking about going to a boy’s house with a water gun, “paint gun” and a BB gun. There had reportedly been a school yard pushing incident the day before involving the boys, excluding Mayer’s son, and they were seemingly talking about getting even in some way."

I'm probably going to get roasted here but if indeed a teacher heard the three students having this conversation, they were well within their responsibility to bring it to attention. There is a recent thread here about a BB gun related death. If I were the father of the student being threatened and the students had followed through with the threat, I'd be beyond pissed that someone could have stopped it. Now, everything that happened with the father of the boy in question and the Peoples Republik of New York-ifornia is beyond reprehensible.
The reaction of the teacher was so far into outer space its not funny. A bb gun, a paintball gun, the letter "L", and a pot tart. This is not reprehensible, it is down right stupid....
 

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Harryball, I agree that the reaction from the state is beyond idiotic. We'll agree to disagree on the reaction of the teacher and the level of this specific threat that was overheard. Suspending a student for threatening to retaliate against another student with a BB gun is, IMHO, in a completely different ballpark than the pop tart, cup cakes with soldiers on them, etc.
 

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The reaction of the teacher was so far into outer space its not funny. A bb gun, a paintball gun, the letter "L", and a pot tart. This is not reprehensible, it is down right stupid....
Yes, we have had the educational system showcase some of its shining stars lately. But local LE still acted on it. The cops could have told the teacher to grow up and get a life, but no, they acted on it as though it were a threat. The stupid runs deep and wide here.
 

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I left new york when I turned 18, and I will NEVER go back. I would live on the streets and eat from dumpsters before i returned to that dictatorship of a state.
 

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I don't think this is a case of PC thinking running amok. I don't think this has to do with maintaining a safe and non-hostile classroom environment. I think this is a case of bureaucrats and public officials trying to tell people, "You have no right to own a gun and until you hand them over and bow to the king we're going to make your life miserable." Very sad.
 

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Harryball, I agree that the reaction from the state is beyond idiotic. We'll agree to disagree on the reaction of the teacher and the level of this specific threat that was overheard. Suspending a student for threatening to retaliate against another student with a BB gun is, IMHO, in a completely different ballpark than the pop tart, cup cakes with soldiers on them, etc.
There was a student suspended for a pop tart in the shape of a gun. The teacher should have taken the kids to the principals office and called the parents and taken care of it that way. Calling the PoPo and making a spectacle out of the situation was stupid. Parents are no longer able to be parents especially when we have teachers and staff like this. I will agree to disagree with you on this, but I still believe it is utter crap...
 

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Agreeing to disagree and having civil, intelligent discussions, even with differing viewpoints, is what makes this site so terrific HB. :smile:
 
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"Later that day, Mayer got a call from school officials informing him that his 10-year-old son and two other students were talking about going to a boy’s house with a water gun, “paint gun” and a BB gun. There had reportedly been a school yard pushing incident the day before involving the boys, excluding Mayer’s son, and they were seemingly talking about getting even in some way."

I'm probably going to get roasted here but if indeed a teacher heard the three students having this conversation, they were well within their responsibility to bring it to attention. There is a recent thread here about a BB gun related death. If I were the father of the student being threatened and the students had followed through with the threat, I'd be beyond pissed that someone could have stopped it. Now, everything that happened with the father of the boy in question and the Peoples Republik of New York-ifornia is beyond reprehensible.
You're right, and you make a very, very good point. You must be an educator yourself. Its not the teacher's fault that the law-makers, politicians, police officers, and educational administrators are stupid. That is NOT the teacher's fault, but it is the teacher's responsibility to be on the look-out for student's safety. I think the teacher did a good job in this incident. Its her boss that's an idiot.
 

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Agreeing to disagree and having civil, intelligent discussions, even with differing viewpoints, is what makes this site so terrific HB. :smile:
This is something we can agree on...:smile:
 

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Dave, I'm not an educator but my ex-wife is. Couldn't pay me enough to be a teacher, God Bless them. I am a father though. If I were the teacher and principal, I would have called the parents of the three boys in for a meeting that day, before they ever left school and made sure the parents were going to deal with it. If I felt the parents were blowing it off and the other student was still at risk, I would have told the parents of the three boys that and that I was involving the authorities at that point. I agree with HB that as parents we deserve the right to parent, raise and discipline our own children. However, if a parent chooses not to do that then you can't leave another child at risk. It is a very tight rope to walk as well as being a very slippery slope. I can guarantee you that if I were called for my son, or daughter for that matter, making a threat of this nature they wouldn't see a BB gun, nor a TV, or video game or anything else they enjoyed doing for a very long time.
 
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The Zero Tolerance Gun policy may seem absurd to most of us, but it is on purpose. The planned result will be an entire generation completely shell-shocked of ANYTHING to do with firearms. A voting generation.
You are right. IMO the teacher, principle and LE involved with this are trying to mold our children into something they want, not necessarily what the parents want. To allow them to do so is very dangerous to the next generation. The parents should have the right to decide what the punishment for this would be not the Police. To wreck a fathers life for what a 10 year old said is more than a bit much. Educators IMO are over stepping there bounds. This will not happen with my babies...
 

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This should have been handled and resolved with the parents and the students who were involved.

Parents aren't raising their children correctly.

Teachers aren't teaching the children correctly.

School officials aren't running the schools correctly.

Politicians aren't governing correctly.
 
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Unfortunately all I really have to say about this whole story is... MOVE!

If you don't like living under the Socialist dictatorship of a state like New York, move. If you don't relocate to a better environment then you better suck it up, buttercup, because you've asked for it. The ignorance of the state along with their ability to circumvent the Second Amendment doesn't surprise me any longer. People being shocked or outraged by their ability to circumvent the Second Amendment just confuses me.
 

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This is utter stupidity on so many levels I dont know where to start and frankly Im too worn out with this stuff.
Ny is a lost cause. NYC is worse than a lost cause. Just give the few sane folks there a little time to get out and then wall the whole place up.
 
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