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Won't they all wind in jail for daring to have guns out in the open like that?

Seriously, I am very proud of them for taking a stand for real.
 

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I wonder how politically incorrect it will be to harass these folks for being armed with evil black rifles when they're feeling threatened. Anyone hearing whines and whimpers from the ACLU or SPLC?
 

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In light of the Holocaust, I can't figure out why ANY Jew would be for gun-control.

On a side note, it seems the earlier attacker made bail and was again arrested for assault. Go NY!~ Empower your violent criminals!
 

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KILTED COWBOY said:
I never understood why most Jews Vote liberal.
After all they have been through it makes no sense.
My best buddy is Jewish and he has not been able to explain it to me.
He is not a flaming lib, but he does swing that way
MY S-I-L is Jewish and a liberal Democrat. When I ask her how she can support a party that has become openly anti-Semitic, she tells me the Republicans are just as bad. There's no talking to her.
 

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In light of the Holocaust, I can't figure out why ANY Jew would be for gun-control.
I have also wondered about this for many years. It just makes no sense. There is a whole section in John Ross' book, "Unintended Consequences" where he covers Jews in WWII and Jewish resistance. Very good read. This is a book I highly recommend, if you can find a copy.
 

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I never understood why most Jews Vote liberal.
After all they have been through it makes no sense.
My best buddy is Jewish and he has not been able to explain it to me.
He is not a flaming lib, but he does swing that way
Here is a pretty good explanation by Ben Shapiro (an orthodox Jew) that answers your question.

 

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I suggest that Mr. Shapiro is wrong.

Oh, he's correct, that most Jews are secular, and not religious. And that many Jews are atheists* (like me, for instance).
But that's not why Jews vote Progressive (not "Democrat"; but Progressive).

A very important part of the Jewish world view and life view is a concept that, in (transliterated) Hebrew, is called Tikka Olam.
Tikka Olam, in English, means "to fix the world."
Jews see their social and religious missions as callings to "fix the world." Jews want to make the world "a better place."
Note that no Jew can tell you whether it is necessary that the "fixed world" suit you — or them for that matter. Nobody has defined "better."
All they know is that the world isn't working correctly right now, so it needs to be fixed.
How would "working correctly" be defined? Nobody really knows.

But the Jews do know that the Progressives are also out to "fix the world," and to "make it a better place."
So therefore, if a Jew who has never learned to think critically truly wants to make the world a better place, then that non-critical-thinking Jew votes for Progressives. They, after all, are doing the right thing.
And how does the non-critical-thinking Jew know that the Progressives are doing the right thing? Why, because the Progressives continually tell us so.
So it must be true. Right?


*So, why are so many Jews actually atheists? Ah, that's really easy to answer.
Jews are raised to discuss everything, especially religious matters.
These discussions very often become heated, with yelling. "I'm right! You're wrong!" and stuff like that.
So since Jews are trained to argue about religion, it's an easy step to also argue with God. Indeed, there are many Jewish jokes (by Jews about Jews) which involve arguing angrily directly with God, and how God answers these arguments.
Well, if you've been brought up to argue with God, it's an easy step to seeing God as being wrong. And the very next step is to believe that, because God has not really answered me directly, then God really doesn't exist. QED

The Ultra-Orthodox (Hasids, for instance) solve this problem by joining one or another group, each led by a know-it-all Rabbi whom they venerate almost as if he were God's appointed messenger or judge. The members of a group do whatever their Rabbi tells them is the right thing to do.
Trouble is, each of these venerated Rabbis has his own idea about right, wrong, and how to accomplish Tikka Olam. And none agrees with any other. And their separate groups (call them congregations) are not on speaking terms with one-another, either.

So now you know about Jews.
 

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I suggest that Mr. Shapiro is wrong.

Oh, he's correct, that most Jews are secular, and not religious. And that many Jews are atheists* (like me, for instance).
But that's not why Jews vote Progressive (not "Democrat"; but Progressive).

A very important part of the Jewish world view and life view is a concept that, in (transliterated) Hebrew, is called Tikka Olam.
Tikka Olam, in English, means "to fix the world."
Jews see their social and religious missions as callings to "fix the world." Jews want to make the world "a better place."
Note that no Jew can tell you whether it is necessary that the "fixed world" suit you — or them for that matter. Nobody has defined "better."
All they know is that the world isn't working correctly right now, so it needs to be fixed.
How would "working correctly" be defined? Nobody really knows.

But the Jews do know that the Progressives are also out to "fix the world," and to "make it a better place."
So therefore, if a Jew who has never learned to think critically truly wants to make the world a better place, then that non-critical-thinking Jew votes for Progressives. They, after all, are doing the right thing.
And how does the non-critical-thinking Jew know that the Progressives are doing the right thing? Why, because the Progressives continually tell us so.
So it must be true. Right?


*So, why are so many Jews actually atheists? Ah, that's really easy to answer.
Jews are raised to discuss everything, especially religious matters.
These discussions very often become heated, with yelling. "I'm right! You're wrong!" and stuff like that.
So since Jews are trained to argue about religion, it's an easy step to also argue with God. Indeed, there are many Jewish jokes (by Jews about Jews) which involve arguing angrily directly with God, and how God answers these arguments.
Well, if you've been brought up to argue with God, it's an easy step to seeing God as being wrong. And the very next step is to believe that, because God has not really answered me directly, then God really doesn't exist. QED

The Ultra-Orthodox (Hasids, for instance) solve this problem by joining one or another group, each led by a know-it-all Rabbi whom they venerate almost as if he were God's appointed messenger or judge. The members of a group do whatever their Rabbi tells them is the right thing to do.
Trouble is, each of these venerated Rabbis has his own idea about right, wrong, and how to accomplish Tikka Olam. And none agrees with any other. And their separate groups (call them congregations) are not on speaking terms with one-another, either.

So now you know about Jews.
Thank you for posting this, it provided an insight that I had not considered before. Anything that helps us understand others better is a good thing.
 

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MY S-I-L is Jewish and a liberal Democrat. When I ask her how she can support a party that has become openly anti-Semitic, she tells me the Republicans are just as bad. There's no talking to her.
To be honest the Rockefeller wing (aka Country Club Republicans) were fairly bigoted but to side with the party of the Klan just is indefensible.
 

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MY S-I-L is Jewish and a liberal Democrat. When I ask her how she can support a party that has become openly anti-Semitic, she tells me the Republicans are just as bad. There's no talking to her.
My B-I-L is exactly the same while my sister is an avid Trump supporter and Pro 2-A. Perhaps we could introduce your brother to my sister!!
 

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I have found that discussing religion, like politics, has one result: One's own opinion is always right and everyone else's opinion is wrong.
 
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