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Well, Well, Well. How times have rapidly changed for me.

Anyone who looks at some of my prior posts a few months back will see I stated that I (Choose) not to open carry for various reasons.
I also never condemned or found fault with those that did.

I am not a OC baiter..not even close.

For the past few weeks I have begun to OC. Wally World, restaurants, several other retail establishments, walking in town.

My reason to start OC is probably two fold.

1) I don't like IWB. (Comfort level) I became comfortable with OWB during the cold of winter. I still carry IWB but only under certain circumstances. (i.e) Large crowds)

2) Probably should have been my number one reason. I am fed up and frustrated with the liberal views on gun control which equates more to 2A rights.
OC'ing is now my way of saying and visibly educating the public at large..

"I am a American. This is (MY) (RIGHT) to do this. It is legal"

It also may present opportunity to discuss with any who may ask why I am carrying.

So far there have been ZERO incidents with LE.

Now to be fair, I live in a VERY gun friendly state. Not sure if I would do this if I lived in some "other" states.
 

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So that I have this right??? You are now using OC to make a political statement? If that's the case don't forget your camera...
 

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I certainly understand and agree with your political views; however remember that the best confrontation is the one you avoid.

OC can deter some incidents, but it can also invite others. Personally, I am not looking for the attention or potential conflict while I am carrying. There are simply too many things that can go wrong.

You have the right and I support you 100%, but be careful that you don't put yourself into a bad situation just to make a statement.
 

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I think open carry is to guns, what blue tooth's are to cell phones.

Just my opinion.

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Good points for OC, absolutely: increased comfort; increased opportunities to show other citizens lawful carry is no threat; and increased likelihood of engaging and turning an "anti" on the subject of defensive weapons and preparations by citizens. Those things can be harder to achieve, when it's all hidden.

So long as the balance of that with your desire to maintain your security is one that works for you, it sounds like the right choice.
 

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In the right circumstances (make up your own mind on what those might be) I have no problem with open carry.

However, outside of those circumstances it seems overly and intentiionally provocative. Just my opinion

As the recently deceased Margaret Thatcher commented "If you have to announce to people how important you are, then you probably aren't."

I know it is a stretch for some of you on this forum to adapt that philosophy to OC, but I think most of you take my point.
 

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I know many will say that OC is a double-sided sword. It can deter situations but on the same token it might make you a prime target in others. I agree both are valid points, but I do not agree that they are both equally occurrent. Crimes are typically committed out of opportunity in low-risk (to the BG) situations. Take home burglaries, vehicle break-ins, and even muggings for example. The BG does not want a confrontation, they want easy pickings. Even in muggings, the BG may have a weapon but really does not want to actually use it, it's more a display of power and for coercion. Actually using a weapon, injuring, or even killing someone carries a lot of jail time and increased risk (investigation by PD).

Like it has been said, the best confrontations are the ones you avoid and I believe OC achieves that far better than CC. The Scenarios section of the forum has many stories about simply displaying a gun resolved the threat without shots being fired. While that is a great outcome for both parties, it is the second best result (the best being that it never happened in the first place). In many of those stories (which were CC) I wondered if OC would have deterred the threat from the start.

I think a lot of people need to remember while carrying and SA give you a sense of security, they do not make you invincible. There are situations where the BG could get the drop on you, a malfunction happens, or something else unfortunate. Now if that same BG saw you with a gun on your hip, he very likely would have just picked another target instead and saved both you and himself the trouble.

As for OC as a political statement, I think that is fine. Ultimately, we all carry (OC or CC) for the same reasons and that is self defense. Now if you were out OCing an empty gun/magazine just to be political then I would say that is foolish. I am sure many centuries ago it would not be strange for most of the public to be OCing around while conducting their business. It's a shame that it even has to be considered a political statement to exercise a basic right (and I only mean that generally, not towards anyone here).

I just want to be clear that I support both OC and CC, that's up to the user and regional laws. I just feel like the benefits of OC get dismissed far too easily.
 

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^^ Words right from my heart!
 
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OC can deter some incidents, but it can also invite others.
I hear this argument constantly from the CC crowd. Can anyone point me to a news story where an OC'er was attacked because they were open carrying their pistol? ANY links to an OC'er being randomly disarmed and shot with their own weapon, just because the gun was showing?

Just curious.
 

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I hear this argument constantly from the CC crowd. Can anyone point me to a news story where an OC'er was attacked because they were open carrying their pistol? ANY links to an OC'er being randomly disarmed and shot with their own weapon, just because the gun was showing?

Just curious.
yep, and then there's the one about the "shoot me first" vest
 

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I wasn't really referring to having a gun taken away (although I suppose it is possible), I was referring to the flak you might take from others around you. You may or may not care what anyone says about you, but given the current political environment and high profile 2A arguments it seems that OC might invite confrontation with anti's. I don't mind a good argument, but having one in public while I am carrying is, in my opinion, asking for trouble.

Like I said above, I believe in the right to OC and I am totally supportive; however, I just wanted to OP to think it through completely. If you are OC'ing because you believe it is your best option for personal defense, then you should proceed. However, if you do it just to pick a fight, you are carrying for the wrong reasons.
 

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I havent been OCing but Im going too. Its legal here, nobody pays any attention to it and honestly im so fed up now I dont care if they do. But thats a moot point because its not uncommon here.
 

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So that I have this right??? You are now using OC to make a political statement? If that's the case don't forget your camera...
It's part of the reason I started. I've not needed a camera. You can actually carry to make a point and NOT be a jerk in the process. I've had some fantastic conversations with folks because I was OC'ing. I would have never had those conversations CC'ing.
 
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I oc to attempt to normalize guns in culture aaaaand because its easier to draw. Also i dont want my kid to grow up thinking guns are only for the box in the back of the closet, That they are a very good tool in the self defense toolbox.

OP- more power to you.
 

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I would love to open carry if not only for the comfort level...... However due to my lower back issues, the fact that I live in the Milwaukee/West Allis part of Wisconsin where law enforcement(nt all) seems to have no problem putting one the the ground if they open carrying, and that I do get "vocal" when my rights are violated I have to conceal carry..... Oh well....... Welcome to the "new and improved" America............
 
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