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After the teacher carry bill in Oklahoma died in a house committee earlier in this years legislative session, a new bill has passed the Oklahoma senate to allow teachers or any other school personnel to carry after receiving 120 hours of CLEET training(law enforcement training) with district approval. They will be certified as police and have the ability to carry on school campuses if allowed by that particular district. The measure now goes back to the house so this is not a done deal.
 

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Oh, I support this.
 

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...I don't agree that teachers should have to undergo 120 hours and be certified as police to carry...

...I do agree that properly trained teachers should be able to carry concealed under CHL authority and school board permission...with the liability resting squarely on the district's shoulders...
 

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Sounds like they've found something for all the teachers to do during summer break.
 

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with the liability resting squarely on the district's shoulders
That's exactly why they're requiring such extensive training. In public eduaction it's all about CYA and that's exactly what the district is doing. As a teacher, I understand this politics and would totally support it if they could make it happen in Georgia! We're hopefully getting armed admin in the next year or so! It's a start!
 

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...that's about ten hours short of a bachelor's degree...even if the district pays for it, that's a heavy burden to place on a teacher...

...more training in the law...sure...
...tactical training...making sure they understand dos and don'ts...of course

...maybe four 8-hour courses

...if we require that much extensive training of teachers...how long before CHL holders are required the same???

...it's too much...
That's exactly why they're requiring such extensive training. In public eduaction it's all about CYA and that's exactly what the district is doing. As a teacher, I undestand this politics and would totally support it if they could make it happen in Georgia! We're hopefully getting armed admin in the next year or so! It's a start!
 

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...that's about ten hours short of a bachelor's degree...even if the district pays for it, that's a heavy burden to place on a teacher...
I think these are being measured in total training hours not Semester hours. So far short of a Bachelors. So more like a Constable level than even a LEO academy level
 

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...even if it means 120 clock hours...that's 15 eight hour days' training...and way too much to require...

...wonder how we find out whether it's your interpretation of "120 hours" or mine that's accurate???

I think these are being measured in total training hours not Semester hours. So far short of a Bachelors. So more like a Constable level than even a LEO academy level
 

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AIt is CLEET training which is our (Oklahoma) law enforcement training and certification agency. The 120 hours is 120 clock hours and I am sure will include, law, legalities, tactics, and range training. I do not know more as I was working off the television report. I do know the first attempt this legislative session was derailed in the state senate by a committee. This new initiative has been attached to some other legislation as an amendment so I do not know how it will fare in the senate. I work at a Bureau of Indian Affairs school on Indian Land so this will not happen where I work. (Federal and Tribal) but will work for public and private schools in the state if it is passed. As a secondary note we have armed Tribal Marshals on campus during school time and tribal security 24-7. The marshal service dispatch and station is less than a 1/2 mile from campus so in an emergency they could put 10 to 15 officers on campus in less than 5 minutes and with state and county cross deputization we would be swimming in police very quickly. The tribal EMS service is less than a mile away and we would have EMS service in less than 5 minutes also. They use our campus for training in these types of situations and have actually done drills with the faculty present so we would have some idea of what they would do in an actual situation. We practice lock-down at least once every semester along with drills for severe weather and fire.

http://www.newson6.com/story/21627230/oklahoma-house-approves-bill-to-allow-armed-teachers
 

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...thanks for the additional information...that's a lotta training for a teacher...oh, well, as they say in Washington: "It's for the children"...
 

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If it just saves one child. We are doing it for the children.

Kudos to OK for doing something. I agree that 120 hours seems like a lot, but I am of the opinion that "whatever it takes".
 
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...I'd be glad to re-train and volunteer in the schools here, if they'd get off their butts and come up with a plan...nothing yet...
 

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hopefully this gets passed. i would love to see carry available in schools like Utah has, and some others (77 campuses to be exact ;) i literally just got down writing an argumentative paper about students and faculty being able to carry on campus. literally as in just handed paper in this afternoon, lol. good stuff. this was actually something i put in the paper, having to take a class to be fully trained and prepared in order to be able to carry as a middle ground. hope this gets passed and hopefully other states will adopt something like it.
 
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