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Panic... man with a gun in New Hampshire...


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Wow. That dippy brunette sure doesn't understand that LEGAL AND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY means that you can't be arrested or asked to leave the vicinity for carrying a firearm. And, of course, the NYC talking heads just can't understand that the world is much different outside of Long Island or Manhattan.

What I thought was weird was that the guy was on private property with permission and yet the cops stated that "as long as it was openly carried" it was legal. WTF??? Since WHEN is it mandatory that while on private property you openly carry firearms? I always thought that you could carry a firearm any way you wanted so long as you were on PRIVATE property.

Is NH backwards in this?
 

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I kinda liked the way they said,well I'm sure as soon as Obama shows up that guy will be nowhere around,In other words I'm sure the Secret Service will be violating his constitutional rights as they see fit
 

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Is that what was meant when Mr. President declared certain stupid people (me) to be "bitterly clinging to their guns & their bibles"? Where's this guys New Testament?!?
 

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As much as I do not like our current fearless leader, the Secret Service does have broad discretionary power to remove weapons from anyone. I do not think he was too bright bringing a weapon to where the president was going to be.
 

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As much as I do not like our current fearless leader, the Secret Service does have broad discretionary power to remove weapons from anyone. I do not think he was too bright bringing a weapon to where the president was going to be.
Oh i forgot that we must forfeit our constitutional rights when the pres comes to town. The serfs must not carry when the king is in town.
 

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Most recent update I could find. Apparently he was left alone. The response from the national press is no surprise considering they mostly live in Chicago, D.C., Jersey and NYC .... Go figure.

MEN WITH GUNS -- OUTSIDE TOWN HALL
Posted: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:45 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: White House, Ron Allen
From NBC's Ron Allen
Outside the event where President Obama will conduct his town hall, there is an anti-Obama protestor with a gun -- a pistol strapped to his lower leg.

The local police chief said it's legal for the man to have a registered handgun -- as long as it is not concealed. What's more, he is on private property, a church yard, which has given him permission to be there.

*** UPDATE *** More on the man with the gun... William Kostric is a married man in his mid 30S who works in sales. He says he moved here to New Hampshire from Arizona about a year ago, because it's a "live free or die" state -- and he thought Arizona was becoming too restrictive with its gun laws.

He's passing out a bookmark that says, "Join the Second Amendment Revolution, the most exciting pro-liberty movement in over 200 years."

He's a Ron Paul supporter, who opposes just about everything Obama, including health care reform.

The local police say he is within his rights to carry a handgun openly under state law. He was carrying a 9-mm Smith and Wesson strapped to his lower leg.

Police say he's OK on a public sidewalk. Kostric says he has permission from a church just down the street from the high school to be on its private property.

He says he was approached by a "detective," possibly a Secret Service Agent, who told him he could be arrested within 1,000 feet of a school with a weapon under a federal law. Kostric moved back to private property.

When Obama arrived, the police had Kostric under surveillance. A local police captain said the Secret Service has been "in the loop."

Kostric has been about 50 to 75 yards from the entrance to the high school, since about 11:00 am ET, doing interviews and carrying a sign and his gun and police have had their eye on him. But as long as he's been "cooperative," they have watched, but let him be.
 

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Some things just are not smart

As much as I do not like our current fearless leader, the Secret Service does have broad discretionary power to remove weapons from anyone. I do not think he was too bright bringing a weapon to where the president was going to be.
ExactlyMyPoint, I agreed. Some things are not exactly smart even if they might be perfectly legal. And often surprise, surprise, what is done in the name of something dumb and erroneously thought to be legal often ends up badly for the perp.

A fool is a fool is a fool, and some folks just don't know the difference between being sensible and stupid..... these kind don't help our cause any whatsoever.
 

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Some states have the "meeting of any Government entity" clause in their concealed handgun laws. I know Arkansas does.

Basically, anywhere that a town,city,state or even federal town hall meeting takes place is off limits.

I guess that is not the case there.
 

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MSNBC = Fail.

"The gun is registered to him." I doubt it.
 

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MSNBC = Fail.

"The gun is registered to him." I doubt it.
That comment is a slight and implies we need to register everyone's firearm and verify that he has our blessing to carry it. Forget the Constitution. Controlling the population transcends the rights the Founding Fathers put in our Constitution.
 

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I am so very happy that man stood out there with his weapon. He didnt bring it to make a statement or threaten life. He brought it because it is his moral obligation under our constitution to defend himself and his fellow countrymen against threats to their lives. Who knows when some deranged person with a gun comes out there to kill people and this man may stop the threat and save the lives of several people.

Sheep are being shown the light. maybe if 100 people shown up with open carry weapons it would be a massive thing to talk about.
 

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HotGuns sez...

Some states have the "meeting of any Government entity" clause in their concealed handgun laws. I know Arkansas does.

Basically, anywhere that a town,city,state or even federal town hall meeting takes place is off limits.

He was across the street on private property...
 

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The part that stuck out to me was the "tree of liberty" sign. There's nothing suspicious about having a gun, but that sign is calling for the president to be killed. Let's not kid around - that's what the sign means, and we all know it. Whether he's going to go through with it is another question, but that entirely changes the situation.

He has every right to carry a weapon, but carrying a weapon while holding a sign that calls for the president to be killed is an entirely different issue. Threats aren't protected speech. Given that sign, police surveillance was appropriate.

If he had a non-threatening protest sign, I'd agree with everyone here. Given the content of the sign, he was advertising himself as a threat.
 

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Given the content of the sign, he was advertising himself as a threat.
Apparently the Secret Service didnt see it that way. If they thought even for 1 milisecond that he was any kind of a threat, he would have been arrested and whisked off somewhere in a a dark colored van and gotten a free stay at a place of their choosing for a few days.

The Secret Service does not play and they have no sense of humor about such things.
 

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I'm sure there was a highly-adept SS sniper whose only job today was to keep this guy's ear in his crosshairs and not blink for the next hour...
 

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I do not think he was too bright bringing a weapon to where the president was going to be.
That was my thoughts exactly. I understand, and support, the right to OC...but that just seems like sheer stupidity
 
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