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Ok guys - you know I ain't an afficionado with 1911's but need to ask this. Is my Para P12.45 a series 80 or 70? I suspect an 80 but want to know for sure.

CP14.45 has kindly suggested something which improve my gun's reliabilty - namely a Wilson Bullet Proof extractor - but there are options for both series 70 and 80. Once I know will go get one from Brownells to see if it'll help - I rather think it might.
 

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does it have a swantz safety in it or a colt style safety? if there no firing pin safety in it noted by little plunger in slide next to disconnector run then its series 70
 

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Oh my - now you're askin'

I meant to post the pic - if that helps any - otherwise I'll have to look closer. Probably need a pic from other side too.


 

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Realize that Bud so - just taken a fresh pic - just gotta tweak and process, upload and then will post - hang tight birthday boy! :smile:
 

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Ok here we go - see if this gives any useful info.

 

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Oh crap - Ok dude - keep eatin' your birthday cake and I'll be back :wink:
 

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Bud - does this pair of views help any? Or do I need to strip down more?


 

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the lever just in front of the hammer and left of the disconnecter is the series 80 lever that pushes up on the button in the slide so you have a series 80 style Para
 

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Thx Bud - appreciate the input!

Now back to your cake :smile:
 

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Chris,

Just a little FYI, Series 80 parts will work in a Series 70, but not the other way around (for the most part, a couple will).
 

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Thx OD - I am still learning on the 1911 stuff :wink:
 

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It can come in handy Chris if you own both the Series 80s and Series 70s type pistols. If I have 80s parts on hand, such as firing pins, extractors etc., I can repair either type 1911, but if I only have Series 70 parts, I can't repair the 80s.
 

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Good to know OD - OK one more question (heck - it's good to have all the knowledge here to draw on) ......... so, what is my Sistema 1927 classed as?? From it's SN it's a 1959 birthdate.
 

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Chris,

Your Sistema would be a Series 70 type, so you could use either series parts in it.

(technically it's a pre-war, pre-70 type, but that's mostly collector jargon to confuse us
) :wink:
 
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