[skinner1790]

i want opinions i want it for iwb carry how much more is the kahr vs keltec? which is a better gun? i have read alot of bad reviews on pf9 i want to like it i am basicly looking pocket carry i can fit the pf9 in jeans fine i have never held a cw9 how good are they out of two which has your vote ?

 

[gasmitty]

I can help you halfway - I have a CW9 which I carry a lot. But unless your pants are baggy with extra-large pockets, the CW9 is not a pocket gun. Because it's so slim, I get by with a good paddle holster and a loose, untucked shirt for a cover garment.

I do have a Kel-Tec .32, and if it's representative of the rest of their product line, then the CW9 is by far a sturdier and better-built gun, which I believe is reflected in their prices.

For a compact gun, the CW9 affords a full 3-finger grip without a pinky extension on the mag, and the polymer frame makes the recoil quite manageable. +P ammo is snappy, but not uncomfortable - you just know you're shooting a hot round. No problems with mine, and I'm guessing the round count is over 800 by now.

 

[foxytwo]

I have a Keltec PF9 and it is reasonably priced and is the smallest and lightest 9mm you can buy making it a true pocket pistol and has a lifetime warranty.The Kahr is a fine pistol but it is a lot more money.
I enjoy shooting about the first 20 rounds but after that it hurts my hand. None of the small pistols, in my opinion, are meant for taget shootine.

 

[Tundra5.7]

Of the two, I'd pick the Kahr. However, I like the M&P Shield and the Ruger LC9 better than either the KelTec or the Kahr.

 

[Todd_Ohio]

I chose the Kahr CW9 after researching a few weeks. One of the things I heard is that it shoots better than most other guns in the class. I haven't verified this yet, as (1) It's been below freezing outside everyday since I've bought it, and (2) I only have 100 rounds of 9mm after buying the last 2 boxes at the shop I bought the gun with. I've gone to 3 other shops and numerous online sites, and everyone's out of 9mm. I paid $399 for it, which I think was a good deal, since Gander wanted $575.

When I was looking at possibilities, my final two were the CW9 and the Ruger LC9. I didn't like the idea of the plastic guide rod on the LC9 after reading about it breaking, plus everything I read, saw, and heard said that the CW9 was a better shooter.

First thoughts on the CW9: I like the size, weight and feel of it. It's nice and comfy. I hardly notice it holstered doing my daily stuff. The slide has grooves cut into it to help when gripping, and these tore my palm up while I was practicing to get the feel of it. I ended up putting gaffer tape over the grooves to minimize this, and now it's just fine. The grip is nice, a good size and feel, but I think I'm going to grind off the little lip on the bottom of the magazine that pokes out into my pinky.

 

[Snatale42]

I carry my PF-9 daily in the warmer months when a small gun is in order. It's been 100% reliable, very accurate, has 3 dots which many small guns dont and has no issue shooting JHP. The only must for the PF-9 is the Hogue handall jr. The grip on PF-9's is very aggressive and for me hurts. With the handall it is very comfortable in the hand and doesnt really add size. I went back and forth on the kahr and the lc9 when I bought it and happy with my choice.

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[ripley16]

The grip is nice, a good size and feel, but I think I'm going to grind off the little lip on the bottom of the magazine that pokes out into my pinky.

One alternative to this is to use the steel flat baseplate instead of the plastic base.

which has your vote ?

One advantage the Kahr has over the PF9 is in barrel length. While the two are about the same overall length, the Kahr's barrel is 1/2" longer.

Either pistol will fill your needs. I'd get the one I liked better as to grip/ trigger/ "feel" wise.

 

[farronwolf]

I have both guns, or should I say that the wife has both guns.

Both the PF9 and the CW9 have run without issue for us, and I wouldn't hesitate to carry either one.

However, the CW9 is hands down, easier shooting and has a much better trigger than the PF9. The CW9 is much easier to maintain. The PF9 required nightly wipedown with a silicon cloth to keep it from rusting because of the heat and humidity here in Texas.

Neither of them are what I would consider "pocket" sized guns. But then again, I don't wear baggy pants or jeans. The wife carried her PF9, and now the CW9 in a Remora holster and loves it. I carry my CW45 in a Remora holster as well.

For the money I would go with the CW9. Good luck with your decision.

 

[Todd_Ohio]

One alternative to this is to use the steel flat baseplate instead of the plastic base.

Are you saying to just remove the plastic base?

 

[zonker1986]

I have three PF-9's, a CW9 and CM9. PF-9 and CM9 are very close in size....CW is substantially larger than the CW9. While I have never had an issue with
my PF-9's and like them a lot, the Kahrs are just a more refined pistol than the Keltec.....and more expensive by about $100. Accuracy out of my PF-9's is
scary accurate for such a small pistol. Accuracy from the Kahr's is primo, too. Reliability has been perfect out of all my Keltecs and Kahrs, but they do require
a bit of work to get them that way. The infamous Keltec Fluff & Buff is a procedure I now do for ALL my guns, as it seems to ensure reliable function...simple
buffing of the feed ramp and smoothing all sharp items that may impeded the cartridge feed into the chamber.

for pocket carry go with either the CM9 or PF-9. CW9 is a great jacket pocket, IWB or fanny pack gun.

 

[ghost tracker]

I have one Keltec PF-9 & several Kahrs. The OP first asked about which for IWB carry, then gun quality, then pocket carry. So I'll try to be clear. IWB carry=CW9. Overall quality=CW9. Pocket carry=PF-9.

 

[XD Joe]

Quote:
"I have three PF-9's"

Three pf9's? You sir, have raised the bar! I have had one for 3 yrs and have found it to be reliable, reasonably accurate with a decent trigger. At our last BUG match, I placed 3rd with it.

 

[zonker1986]

Quote:
"I have three PF-9's"

Three pf9's? You sir, have raised the bar! I have had one for 3 yrs and have found it to be reliable, reasonably accurate with a decent trigger. At our last BUG match, I placed 3rd with it.

one blued, one parkerized, and one Hard Chrome......definitely recommend the hard chrome version if you can find it.

 

[rammerjammer]

Neither

Kel Tec are junk

Kahr- owned by a religious cult

But the Kahr is a better gun.

 

[Armydad]

I carry a PF9 almost every day. It may not be as "refined" as the Kahr but it works just fine for its purpose.

 

[ripley16]

Are you saying to just remove the plastic base?

I'm saying you can replace the polymer finger rest base plate with a flat profile steel baseplate. There are two pieces which are sold together as a set by Kahr.

look here for the parts. Kahr Steel Magazine Base Kit (9 mm and .40 S&W) - Style # KMKSTL9, Kahr Arms Magazines

 

[kerberos]

:read1:

9. We have learned from bitter experience that discussions of certain subjects (politics, religion, abortion, sexual orientation, etc) often degenerate quickly. For this reason, we DO NOT allow the discussion of these topics.

It's not complicated...

:hand15:

 

[ghost tracker]

My bad kerberos, I didn't know what religion had to do with Defensive Carry issues either. But I shouldn't have kicked the hornet's nest to make my point. :34:

 

[kerberos]

Not trying to play mod or anything...

But anytime we can self-police it makes things run smoother around here...

That and the fact I've been eyeballing both of these lately and I don't want to see the thread locked.

As far as kicking the hornets nest... no problem... I'm worse about doing that than anyone I know!!!

peace... :hand15:

 

[kerberos]

fftop1: Anyone with a hard chromed PF9 notice any corrosion issues at all???

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