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How do you carry your SD Pistol? With a round in the Chamber - No round in chamber


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As I have not been able to find a simple poll (recent or not) of members regarding your choice on keeping a round chambered or not. (please forgive me if I've missed anything from the last 365 days!) Please vote at the top of this post!

There are plenty of discussions, but I am just looking for a simple count.

After answering, please feel free to expound upon your choice by giving details such as your pistol's usual condition (0 ~ 4), its trigger type (DA/SA, etc.) & so on.

Thanks much!
 

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Always chambered...ALWAYS!!!!
 

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Nope.

The odds of me needing my gun in self defense are very slim.
The odds of me needing my gun in self defense .5 seconds faster, even more slim.
Human error has shown time and time again that no matter how careful you think you are, stuff happens and you realize you are only human and the gun is only something humans create.
 

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- I've borrowed my post from another thread as it now seems more appropriate here than there - apologies if this is against the rules! -
I am currently awaiting response to my application for my Permit to Carry, but I do carry in my home & on my property without a round chambered. I've done my best to stay prepared for the slim chance that I'd need to use the weapon, keeping in mind that I'd need that extra second to pull the slide & be ready for the next step.

When I began to consider a weapon purchase, I decided to start out right & take a basic handgun familiarization course (convinciing my wife to join me). I also took a membership at my local range & used my free pistol rentals to help me decide what weapon would suit my needs & start the process of proper handling & training. Since purchasing my first weapons about a year ago, I've always kept a full magazine of my SD ammo in the pistols along with a full back-up mag or so, but didn't want to keep a round chambered because I wasn't sure I'd be able to practice safe handling. I felt that as long as I prepared for the extra second that was needed to chamber a round, that my SD plan was reasonable.

For the first 4 months or so I carried sporadically in & around my home with my Remora no clip holster, but at times found it uncomfortable to do so without wearing a belt on my shorts during warmer weather. When the weapon wasn't on me it would be holstered & high atop a shelf nearby, where I figured that it was at least available if needed. I made sure to go to the range at least monthly to improve on my handling & trigger skills, & become more comfortable with my weapons' operation. Sometime during the fall I purchased an affordable Bianchi IWB clip-on (Professional 100) & soon after made the decision to carry in & around the home full-time, because you never truly know if you'll have time to get to a weapon when you need it - but I still didn't feel completely safe keeping a round chambered.

After a year of much thought & contemplation, I recently took the required training & applied for my permit to carry. During that year I've spent many (many) hours at the range, I've transferred my weapons from the storage safe to my at-ready safe & holster multiple times a day - clearing the weapons each time I did so, kept them clean & in working order, & throughout have not made the mistake of putting finger on trigger when it wasn't called for.

We do not have children of our own & my weapon is concealed (holstered) on me or secured. I have now come to the conclusion that the extra second needed to chamber a round is no longer reasonable. When my permit hits my mailbox & I start carrying full-time, I will trust myself to do what I feel is right for me & my state of preparedness. My weapons will be at the ready...with a round chambered.
 

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Ark, your self-analysis of the topic is very thorough and introspective. I applaud your attention to safety and scenario when it comes to 'having one in the pipe'. Very good idea to practice carrying around your property or anywhere else you can do so legally. I have and will always carried with one chambered, but respect those who do not.

For me, if a SD scenario unfolds it will do so VERY fast and I will not have time to chamber a round. One less thing to worry about......

I mostly carry a Springfield XD sc9 in a Minotaur MTAC and sometimes a S&W 642 in a DeSantis Softuck or Don Hume 715 open top. Best of luck with permit once it arrives!


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I agree that chances of ever needing a firearm for self defense is slim.... so why even carry if the chances are that slim? If you're going to carry, and that slim chance ever happens that you do need it, you're not going to want to fumble around. Hell, I don't even like carrying firearms with external safeties. If you're carrying a weapon in a proper holster and you leave it put and don't play with it, you won't have any problem's. Almost all ND's are caused by people fumbling around with their firearm when they shouldn't be, cleaning an "unloaded" firearm, carrying without a holster or even unholstering it to show a friend and not clearing it. I'm not against showing a friend my Glock if they wish to see it and are curious as long as it's not in public. But ALWAYS clear the weapon. Treat a loaded firearm like a rattlesnake. You shouldn't be afraid of a loaded gun, but you MUST have respect for a loaded gun.
 

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A simple search would reveal:

http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/home-away-home-defense-discussion/120360-not-locked-loaded.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/119462-carrying-da-only-one-chamber.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/115181-one-chamber.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/115332-one-pipe.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/110470-new-ccw-question-carrying-loaded.html
Here is a poll: http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/defensive-carry-guns/72666-do-you-carry-chambered-not.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/67731-what-condition-do-you-carry-your-non-1911-da-semi-auto-gun.html
Another poll: http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/57669-chambered-round.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/general-firearm-discussion/41285-chamber-not-chamber-1-question-merged.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/38194-chambered-not-part-2-a.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/35901-chambered-not.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/33379-question-re-condition-1-carry-da-only-pistols.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/11191-always-carry-empty-chamber.html
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/concealed-carry-issues-discussions/6434-when-you-carry-you-chambered-safety.html

That said, modern defensive handguns are designed to be carried loaded. I carry my P229 loaded...and by design, no safety (except keeping fingers off the bang switch)

When deployed on convoy duty, I carried my M9 loaded, safety off
 

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xd40sc chambered but not toped. 12 in the gun and 1 spair mag. all the time
 

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The only firearm I have carried that didn't have a round in the chamber was an M-249 SAW, as per my unit's SOP for open bolt weapons.

My 1911 is carried condition 1, or my j-frame is carried condition one.

It really has to deal with familiarity with one's weapon system, and is a training issue. As you gain confidence in your weapon and your abilities with it, you will feel more comfortable carrying it in a loaded state (although you must avoid becoming complacent with it, for complacency leads to disastrous consequences).
 

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Technically, I carry my P30 in Condition 2 since I have the LEM V2 (DAO) trigger. For those who don't know, Condition 2 is defined as, "A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down." I always carry +1, as well, loaded with 147gr Federal Tactical HST and one or two extra mags. I almost always carry in an IWB Crossbreed SuperTuck holster, and rarely in a Blackhawk! Serpa CQC holster.

From day one, I've carried with a round in the chamber. That's not to say it didn't take a little getting used to, as it did. The former Army special forces and current Phoenix SWAT / peace officer who taught my CCW class made it clear that carrying any other way was pointless, and if we planned on carrying in anything less than Condition 2, he said we should get pepper spray and a knife instead and forget about the class. He is also a big fan of the adage, "One is none, two is one," and so he carries two guns at all times. He also made it clear that on more than one occasion had he not been carrying his duty Glock 22 with a round chambered, he'd likely be dead... Twice! ...That's all the evidence I need.

To me carrying without a round in the chamber makes as much sense as leaving your alarm system off, then hoping you have time to set it off if someone breaks in. I mean if you get jumped and you're fiddling with your gun trying to rack it while getting stabbed or beaten to death.... Or if someone shoots you in the arm.... Or if you get tackled.... Or times infinite scenarios where not carrying with a round chambered in an object designed to carry, chamber and discharge said rounds.... There are just way too many variables and scenarios where carrying unchambered will undoubtedly get you killed. Not to mention that getting all dead or seriously wounded, the BG will steal your firearm and then (do whatever he wants with it)...

Honestly, if you're worried you can't keep your finger off the trigger while your firearm is holstered in a proper holster, (oxymoron), you probably shouldn't be carrying at all. The chances of a modern firearm going off without pulling the trigger are equivalent to getting struck by lightning twice, at the same time.

Rant over.
 

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My revolvers are always chambered; so are my autos for that matter. JMO but, anyone who carries without one chambered really should work to become more comfortable with the idea. It might just save your life one day.:wink:
 

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I'm carrying this over from an old poll on the same topic. This response wasn't written by me, but rather by "larefugee."


* How do you know you will have enough time to chamber a round in an emergency, under stress?
* You may be compromising the critical element of surprise.
* Who says you get to have both hands available when you need to draw?
* You may be setting yourself up for a careless moment someday when you incorrectly assume that no round is chambered.

Basically you're saying that you do not trust yourself to handle a gun safely. Once you train enough then that fear will go away and hopefully leave a sense of responsibility and vigilance.
 
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