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hello, We're looking at getting my Wife and Daughter their CCW permits after going through the appropriate training. My Wife wasn't as receptive of the idea but does agree with it now. I showed her my S&W 442 revolver and she thinks it's too big for her to conceal. I've been doing research on this site about the pocket 380's that are out there and it seems like this might be the route to go for the 2 of them. She did however think she wanted a safety on her gun.i'm not so keen with that idea but we'll see when the time comes. One thing i did learn is I'll need to take them both to a local gun/shooting range to try before we buy. I've looked at the bodyguard 380, ruger lcp, bersa 380,p238,taurus738, etc.
There's alot of guns and opinions out there and i welcome any input and advice from this wonderful site. Thank you in advance.
 

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Taking them to the range and trying as many guns as they want is the best bet. While a .380 may sound good they may instead prefer a 9MM, .38Spl or even a 45ACP and it is best to let them find what they want and are comfortable with.
 
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All of this gun legislation stuff has already started to backfire on what its intended to do.
There are a lot folks that were going to get a cc permit etc that absolutely refuse to do so now. They are getting guns thru private buys and carrying CC but will not be tracked, traced or back grounded by a government they absolutely do not trust after this last round of NY CT etc and the Feds latest run on our Constitutional rights.

I have mine and have for years but in a sense I cant blame them.
 

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If you plan on sticking with a .380 that Bersa isn't a bad choice. Large enough to get a decent grip without killer recoil, but still small enough to easily conceal,.
 

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I showed her my S&W 442 revolver and she thinks it's too big for her to conceal.
There's a lot of guns and opinions out there and i welcome any input and advice from this wonderful site. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]

First congratulations to you both for her taking the steps to become armed and trained. Question is why does she think an S&W 442 is too big to conceal? Having a good bit of experience with petite ladies, that is hard for me to fathom. How has she tried to carry it? Concealment is a topic of its own and if you will answer that question you will get a number of good suggestions to try out.

As to what she will like to shoot that is both concealable and effective, the "try before you buy" is well advised. Start with low recoil, close target and slow fire.
 

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Consider Sig P238

If your wife wants a gun smaller than a 442 plus a manual safety, the Sig P238 might suit her. The photo below shows my 642, the stainless version of your 442, together with my P238. Both guns weigh about 15 ounces, but the P238 is smaller and thinner, hence more easily concealed. And being single action, the P238 has a manual safety and is carried cocked and locked. The gun also has light recoil and the slide is easy to rack, making it attractive to many female shooters.



 

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First, what everyone else says about letting her shoot them. And maybe more than once, since the first time could just be a novelty reaction. For concealability and reliability as well as simplicity of operation, I recommend the LCP. The long trigger is as good or better than a manual safety. I think the single action nature of the P238 just offers too many complexities for a new CCW holder. My wife has both the S&W Airweight (which she likes to shoot) and an LCP. Most often, the LCP goes with her because it's so easy to carry and conceal. The size and weight of the Airweight is fine, but its thickness and shape make it uncomfortable to conceal on occasion.
 

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It can't be said enough that the most important things are letting them try different guns and then deciding for themselves what's comfortable. A person can learn any gun. I racked the slide on the P238 and was sold. Being new to guns, I wasn't familiar with the single action platform, or any other platform for that matter. But boy was that a motivation to learn. I say "I love my gun" all the time and I love shooting it and becoming better with it. It's very easy to conceal as well.

Besides, if you buy your gun THEN apply for your CCW permit, you unfortunately should have plenty of time to practice! :frown:
 

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Getting comfortable with a gun and cc is a long process. Lots of range time reloading safety lots to learn. Have patience start stocking up on ammo to use. To be able to use a gun in a emergency situation you have to have practiced till its second nature. This is not the mindset of a novice. Try to make it a hobby you can all enjoy. Good luck
 

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My wife has been adament about me always having my gun with me but never wanted one of her own. One day she came to me with an application for a CCW. I have bought several guns she wanted and she settled on a 442 I added a laser and she got rid of it. She wanted an extendagrip by hogue and now says this is the gun for her.

I think it has to be their choice. I will say she shoots that one gun very well.

Congratulations on their commitment. The only down side is I don't always get the chair facing the front door of a restaurant with my back to the wall. She gets that chair about 50% of the time now.
 

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I agree with the others, range time to find what works for them. Then let them make the final decision. While that small and light little Bodyguard or LCP may be great for concealing and carrying, it may be detriment when it comes to practicing with it. While the standard .380 is a fairly mild load, the recoil in an ultra lite gun can be brutal.
 

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There's alot of guns and opinions out there and i welcome any input and advice from this wonderful site. Thank you in advance.
You may wish to start them with a NRA Basic Pistol Course just to learn the basic of a pistol and shooting.

While I don't recommend the Ruger LCR, the Ruger LC380 provides a better platform. As everyone else has stated the Bersa 380 or the the Walther PPK/s would be additional choices.

Please start them out at the range with a 22LR then move them up as they become comfortable with the explosion in their hands. Helps with recoil management. Hopefully the range has 22LR ammunition! :wave:
 

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The Selecting a Handgun for Home Defense sticky post is highly informative. See the sticky list at the beginning of the Defensive Carry Guns topic page. It will give you and your wife a good grounding.
 

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Be warned; most females (and a lot of men) can't/won't shoot a real lightweight 38 revolver. These little dogs bite! My buddy looked all around for a 642 when they first came out for his girlfriend---she fired one shot and placed the gun down and said she never wanted to shoot that gun again! Personally, I find that many girls fair much better with one of the smaller 9mm pistols like say, a Kahr CW9---on the smaller side---reasonably little recoil---easy smooth DAO trigger. My wife likes her's, so I got another for me just to keep things simple...
 

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Your idea of taking them to a range for a "try before you buy" is a solid idea.

I started "carrying" in the 80s. Because of threat from a segment of the community I worked in...Law Enforcement felt I needed the self protection. They gave me a AMT back up.

Met hubby and my taste in weapons became more refined. Upgraded to a Ruger SP101. Firearm Gun Revolver Trigger Starting pistol I recently got these for it on ebay. Pink Finger

After a few years it began to get heavy on shopping trips, don't get me wrong...when I purse carry I still use it, but it has gone into "semi retirement" here at home.

I got introduced to Hubby's LCP. Loved it and started "borrowing" it for shopping trips. Valentine's Day he got me this Gun Firearm Trigger Pink Gun accessory . He is so sweet (plus I think he didn't like me borrowing his constantly). :rolleyes:

Hubby has a "hunger" for new weapons, but at this point, I am very happy with my Ruger "sisters". Picked them my self.

BTW I like the Ruger LCP in Raspberry and black, but it also comes in black/black or even baby pink and black like this Gun Firearm Trigger Pink Starting pistol . There might be other colors too (like green) but not sure.

Make this "selection" a fun thing...a adventure....or when dealing with women "A Shopping Trip". :image035:
 
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I have a 45 and a .380 p238. I carry the p238 most of the time. Be sure to add it to your to try guns. It is easy to rack, reliable, and fun to shoot. I haven't shot the others but have read numerous reviews and the sig is at the top. Although not cheap.
 

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It can't be said enough that the most important things are letting them try different guns and then deciding for themselves what's comfortable. A person can learn any gun. I racked the slide on the P238 and was sold. Being new to guns, I wasn't familiar with the single action platform, or any other platform for that matter. But boy was that a motivation to learn. I say "I love my gun" all the time and I love shooting it and becoming better with it. It's very easy to conceal as well.

Besides, if you buy your gun THEN apply for your CCW permit, you unfortunately should have plenty of time to practice! :frown:
I forget when you took your certificate to SO- how long has it been now? Hope you will brag when you get it !
 

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Just remember, this is the perfect chance to snag any pistols you've been wanting.

"What's that babe? You don't like this Sig P238? Well, I guess I'll just have to hold on to it and get you a different one..."
 
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