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Okay, I work in IT. In computers and networking, everything is a car analogy, so I get it. I'm just getting tired of hearing people say thing like "we license people to drive, we should license them to carry guns too" or "We have to register our cars with the state, and report when we sell them, we should do the same with guns because they're designed to kill.

Have these idiots SEEN who we let drive?? Multiple DUIs, vehicular homicide that sent you to prison for five years, auto theft, speeding enough to get you reckless driving jailtime.

Yet, you can go get your driver's license reinstated once your jailtime is over and you pay your fines. If I go to jail for something completely unrelated to firearms, I get them confiscated and can never own another firearm or qualify for a carry permit in any state.


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And to think, one is a right and the other a privilege...
 

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A privilege that we should be a little less free with sometimes, I think.

Here in WA, we've had some pretty significant DUI wrecks in the news lately, and there's a big push to tighten up DUI laws. I think a three-strikes law is more then generous, but I'm sure we'll never get there. But, if I can't make it to a bathroom and pee on a tree because I'm drinking (for the record, I've never done this, lol), and get spotted, then suddenly I could never own a firearm in this state.

Where is the logic????
 

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There is no logic as it pertains to firearms control. It has progressively gotten worse and I fear it will get much worse before any form of change will happen..
 

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The logic is that cars are not scary enough to serve a political agenda, but guns...now we are talking rape the women, gnaw the bones of the boys scary. Besides, if they took away cars, how would politicians get away with drunk driving? And whats scary about a drunk woman mowing down an LEO on his bycycle ( happened here last year), whats scary about the numbskull who rammed his car through the gate in my apt complex.... whats scary about the 19 yr old who got so drunk he passed out at the wheel, drove into a retention pond, and it took them a week to find him ( happened here last summer).... this stuff happens in every city, everywhere.... but guns are the evil culprits of american society.
 

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We should license people to have kids :danceban:
Think about that one for a minute... do you want the government controlling who can have kids? Talk about picking your voter base... :popout2:
 

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Why not have a license for the usage of "free speech"? Why not have a license to worship or to affiliate with a particular religion? We shouldn't be licensed for something that is our God-given right. I don't agree with a concealed carry license, either.

I'd say that voting can result in more harm than firearms, yet the same people wanting to license firearm owners are the same ones who want less checks on who can vote.
 
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It is indeed appalling what we've allowed the liberty-haters to get away with, right under our noses, all because of a fear of what they tell us to fear. Once upon a time, it was only fear itself that was the fear. *sigh*
 

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Why not have a license for the usage of "free speech"? Why not have a license to worship or to affiliate with a particular religion? We shouldn't be licensed for something that is our God-given right. I don't agree with a concealed carry license, either.

I'd say that voting can result in more harm than firearms, yet the same people wanting to license firearm owners are the same ones who want less checks on who can vote.
I have CCW permits in four states, with almost 40 state coverage. I still want to print and laminate a card with the 2nd Amendment on it, and just hand that to anyone that asks to see my permit. And then hand them the actual valid one.

But, I've never been asked for my permits, so... moot point?
 

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You have to register cars because they are far more deadly than a gun. And what's worse, most adults own one.
 

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You have to register cars because they are far more deadly than a gun. And what's worse, most adults own one.
Well, you have to register cars because of how heavily they're taxed for road maintenance and construction. The government could care less who owns the car, they care that the buyers are paying their fair share of taxes. Then another share, just for good measure.
 

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I'd say that voting can result in more harm than firearms, yet the same people wanting to license firearm owners are the same ones who want less checks on who can vote.
I'd like to see every non citizen :aargh4:(illegal):aargh4: have the baby making parts R/R with sawdust. What's the chance of that do you think:blink:?
 

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Think about that one for a minute... do you want the government controlling who can have kids? Talk about picking your voter base... :popout2:
I was kidding or joking........ Thats why i had a Big Dancing Banana posted with the comment .
 

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You have to register cars because they are far more deadly than a gun. And what's worse, most adults own one.
I think that is too facile an answer. We register our cars because doing so raises a lot of money for our state's coffers.

There are certainly benefits to titles and registration, but as often as not these processes are merely just another tax.
 

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I was kidding or joking........ Thats why i had a Big Dancing Banana posted with the comment .
I know... but like the Idiocraty movie... it's as scary as it is funny.
 

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We should make politicians take a basic civics class before they can run for office.
 

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A privilege that we should be a little less free with sometimes, I think.

Here in WA, we've had some pretty significant DUI wrecks in the news lately, and there's a big push to tighten up DUI laws. I think a three-strikes law is more then generous, but I'm sure we'll never get there. But, if I can't make it to a bathroom and pee on a tree because I'm drinking (for the record, I've never done this, lol), and get spotted, then suddenly I could never own a firearm in this state.

Where is the logic????
If you were hugging the tree when you peed on it, you'd be good to go.:embarassed:
 
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Well, you have to register cars because of how heavily they're taxed for road maintenance and construction. The government could care less who owns the car, they care that the buyers are paying their fair share of taxes. Then another share, just for good measure.
Yup, as many of us who've moved from state to state can attest. Pay the taxes upon purchase, in the one state; then, pay an assessed tax/fee upon merely moving that car to your new residence in the new state.

If we simply upped the property taxes for property owners, did away with the vehicle-based registration/licensing/tax schemes and whole supporting leviathan gov't operations that requires, while keeping per-gal gas taxes modest. That say, IMO, we'd have a much simpler mechanism, progressively adjusted to not penalize those least able to pay, still obtain the revenues for maintenance of roads. Combined with zapping the tax-avoidance loopholes that exist throughout our whole insane taxation system, we'd free up so much time and money we wouldn't know what to do with it all (sort of, once we got rolling under the lack of shackles, surprise though it would be). Likely, anytime soon? Not while the liberty-haters have got a stranglehold on the gravy train; not while they/we continue to be so enamored with the "big suck" on citizens' funds through covering every conceivable luxury and service the People could possible "need."
 
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