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Ok, so I have a restricted permit (which is a bunch of BS concidering what ya gotta go through in NY) and I plan on writing the issueing Judge a letter requesting him to remove the restrictions (my permit says "For Hunting and target Shooting and Transporting a Wepon Therefore) Now does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should say in my nice polite letter to the Judge? Keep in mind in NY you have to fill out a application, get 4 references (who aren't related), pay $100 when you turn in the application, take a 3 hour safety course at the tune of $25, get fingerprinted for $15 and wait about 3 months (on the average, I had to wait 11 weeks) for the backround check. Now with all this BS you gotta go through they give out restricted permits:confused: Anyone got any ideas? i would like to be able to carry concealed legally incase push ever comes to shove.
 

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does your area give out general CCw permits to anyone? MI didn't used to and we had to put up with it. Now we are shall issue, luckily. Good luck, but sorry no advice.
 

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I think the county you live in has more to do with restrictions than anything else.In my county (Steuben)permits with no restrictions are the norm!
 

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Yes warren county is giving all restricted permits now, after a CCW permit holder was at a local bar, and got drunk and was flashing his wepon. But this ignorance on his part shouldn't effect the rest of us. If the FBI says go ahead and give this guy a permit then why does a local Judge get to throw a restriction on it?
the only people who get a CCW right off the bat are business owners.
 

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Both of my parents had restricted permits and had them ammended to remove the restrictions in Oneida county. In their case a new judge was in office and was handing out unrestricted permits so they had it easy.

My advice would be to take some training beyond what you were required to take (NRA basic pistol safety course, i think its an 8 hour thing) before you try and get restrictions removed.

Although there is no specific right granted to the judge by law to apply restrictions on permits it has gone to court in the past and upheld each time.

I'm not familiar with warren county at all but if they restrict all permits i have a feeling that you won't get it. I think its worth a try though.
 

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The restriction thing is silly altogether. I know people who have permits in Onondaga Co. Not only do they have "For Hunting and target Shooting and Transporting" on their permit, but they have "premises" on there permit as well. Seems there is horror story of people in N.Y.S. with restriction permits that get arrested for having a handgun in there home. They were arrested because their permit said nothing about having a handgun on their premises! I don’t know if the stories are true, but knowing N.Y.S., I wouldn’t be surprised.
 

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Bruce45,I'm in Westchester county.I had to wait 9 months for mine.From what I understand of the law in NY(and it's not easy to understand).NY state law either issues or denies the permit,the county judges are the ones who puts restrictions on the permits.I've tried to get my business permit down here and they want letters from the bank that I make large cash deposits,3 months worth of deposit slips,notorized letters from my wife and myself that I make the deposits.I'll have to wait another 3 months to see if I'm allowed the amenment.This is total insanity.Heres a good read.It's time we get real here in NY or our rights will be totally gone

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Novak1.html
 

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My worthless .02 is move to colorado where we have no restricted permits and we could use you to help offset the influx of california bilssninnys lol
 

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My worthless .02 is move to colorado where we have no restricted permits and we could use you to help offset the influx of california bilssninnys lol
I tell ya something brother, once I have no reason to stay in NY my arse is moving out west where there is no snow, no damn salty roads, no restricted permits, and no ban on topless wemen
 

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You mean to tell me, that all this time Monkey Man didn't have a permit?!?!?

You think you know somebody....
 

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I tell ya something brother, once I have no reason to stay in NY my arse is moving out west where there is no snow, no damn salty roads, no restricted permits, and no ban on topless wemen
Yep I can relate to that.
 

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You mean to tell me, that all this time Monkey Man didn't have a permit?!?!?

You think you know somebody....
I have a permit, it is just stamped restricted cause our countys Judge is a gun hater :yup:
 

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Bruce45,

I have an unrestricted permit in Albany co...not an easy thing to get.

After several letters to the judge, additional safety courses and an advanced handgun law enforcement course I received my unrestricted permit.

I suggest that you look into the post I made months ago in the training section for Rayburn Law Enforcement training. Send the course summary to him and ask him if it would suffice to receive an unrestricted permit upon successful completion.

State your reasons clearly in your letter for the "need" for the permit both for personal protection and job related if appropriate. Be courteous and professional. Send in a completed copy of the required amendment forms. Attach a resume of your gun handling and safety experience and the number of years you have been shooting. The more training and safety courses the better. Additional character references, especially from any community/political connections may help. Do you shoot IDPA? Do you want to shoot out of state and get an out of state license that requires an unrestricted licence from your home state?


Just a few ideas. Write a really good, thorough letter with attachments. You will have to work for it and let the judge know you are willing to do so. Also, has the judge issued unrestricted permits in the past? If so, ask him what criteria was used. Let us know how you make out.

Oh, and are you a member of the NRA and NYSRPA?

If not, don't ask for any more advice unless you are willing to hold up your end with helping to change things in NYS.
 

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Broome Co is probably still a pain to get unrestricted; a business owner/friend of mine kept trying for some years before His Lordship Judge Matthews finally issued a permission slip...

If you get the hankerin' to move to Az, it's not a bad place, thought the Flagstaff area seems to be turning into NY...think I've been panhandled here more than the five years I lived in Manhattan.
 
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