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I'm surprised that this thread now has 200 posts.
I actually read all this topic while fixing the parents computer.

Half this topic is people commenting "keep the booger finger off the trigger", "I don't need a safety", "perfection", a slew of other stupid comments.

The device is to aid in no look holstering, or just general safe holstering.

If people would read they would know that this is not an actual safety as it disengages as you take your finger off it.

Is day the ratio of uninformed comments is 1-5, maybe 10 if the smart ones were talking.

I'm on Tapatalk so I have 20 pages to go through.

It's ingenious for sure and that first line of safe reholstering because you don't get a second chance otherwise.

But if I did want to add a safety for any reason I'd get the manual safety kit.

"But why get a Glock if your just going to add an external safety?"

Because I like how they shoot, feel and how light they are compared to some other comparable guns that IMO have a terrible grip texture, grip size, takedown.

I can see the use for this, the others are obviously uninformed because half of this topic is stupid comments and one like this pointing out what its use is for.
 

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I actually read all this topic while fixing the parents computer...

a slew of other stupid comments...

If people would read they would know...

the ratio of uninformed comments...

the others are obviously uninformed...

because half of this topic is stupid comments...
I'm unclear as to how repairing your parents computer qualifies you to insult, demean & provide your clearly sardonic observations. Ironically, not directed toward the thread topic, but rather, on YOUR opinion of the FOLKS (fellow DC Members) with whom we share this forum. Perhaps there's a computer-tech forum filled with brilliant people who...agree with you? :biggrin2:
 

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Sidneyious, GT makes a good point, I think you should tone down insulting DC members because they have different views than you.
 

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I've had the "gadget" on my Glock 19 for a few weeks now. Easy to install, boringly simple to use.

Even the smallest rearward movement of the trigger is felt in the thumb via the "gadget". If I've done my job reholstering slowly, safely, and deliberately, the odds of something possibly interfacing with the trigger or finding its way into the holster are vanishingly slim. The "gadget", while not making the reholstering process any closer to foolproof, does add one more level of awareness, one more check and balance against having a negligent discharge. Has nothing to do with the ego being wrapped up in our ability to control our trigger fingers.

After actually inspecting and using one, I have no concerns about it failing. It's a very simple, solid piece of machining. And if it does fail, it "fails" in the same way an escalator fails its way into becoming stairs.

Will likely purchase another for my Glock 17.
 

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All this gadget does is teach a bad habit. Leave Glocks alone.
 

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What habit would that be?
Holding your thumb on the gadget and relying on it as a safety when Glock has all the safety you need if your finger is off the trigger.

I'm referring to the gadget in the OP.
 

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Holding your thumb on the gadget and relying on it as a safety when Glock has all the safety you need if your finger is off the trigger.

I'm referring to the gadget in the OP.
To be fair, I don't think it's meant to or being advertised to act like a traditional safety. It simply gives the user tactile feedback of movement of the striker (effectively the trigger) should something inadvertently end up inside the trigger guard upon reholstering. It's not a replacement for safe gun handing, but rather an added layer of things that can be observed when returning the gun to the holster.
 

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Holding your thumb on the gadget and relying on it as a safety when Glock has all the safety you need if your finger is off the trigger.

I'm referring to the gadget in the OP.
Not sure I follow. Are you saying it's unsafe to holster a Glock with your thumb on the back of the slide? I don't see how this teaches a bad habit if someone holsters that way with an unmodified Glock.
 

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Any mod to a Glock that causes one to do anything different than they would normally do while holstering a Glock is a bad habit. If one holsters with their thumb on the back of the slide already, with the requisite pressure required to activate the gadget, then I'm sure there is no problem.

If someone feels the need and wants to modify the best stock semi auto in the world, that is their right. If someone wants to train accordingly with the modified firearm, that is also their prerogative.

I personally don't see the benefit to installing a modification that repeatedly presses against the striker, with the intent of preventing it from working, especially when the Glock is already designed not to activate the striker if the trigger finger is off the trigger. Considering Glock's track record, I'm certain they'd have already installed such a device if it was necessary.

YMMV. Depends on how you train.
 

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I personally don't see the benefit to installing a modification that repeatedly presses against the striker, with the intent of preventing it from working, especially when the Glock is already designed not to activate the striker if the trigger finger is off the trigger.
Again, I think you're missing part of the intent. It's about preventing the gun from firing when holstering if anything finds its way into the trigger guard, clothing, holster material, drawstrings, etc. If someone is reholstering with their finger on the trigger this isn't going to help them as they're likely on their way to having a ND anyway.

As well, the striker and the gadget don't make contact with each other unless the thumb is on the backplate AND the trigger begins traveling rearward. There's no repeated contact between the striker and gadget unless you're constantly reholstering with things inside the trigger guard.
 

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I've had the "gadget" on my Glock 19 for a few weeks now. Easy to install, boringly simple to use.

Even the smallest rearward movement of the trigger is felt in the thumb via the "gadget". If I've done my job reholstering slowly, safely, and deliberately, the odds of something possibly interfacing with the trigger or finding its way into the holster are vanishingly slim. The "gadget", while not making the reholstering process any closer to foolproof, does add one more level of awareness, one more check and balance against having a negligent discharge. Has nothing to do with the ego being wrapped up in our ability to control our trigger fingers.

After actually inspecting and using one, I have no concerns about it failing. It's a very simple, solid piece of machining. And if it does fail, it "fails" in the same way an escalator fails its way into becoming stairs.

Will likely purchase another for my Glock 17.
The problem with "one more check and balance" is that it's not a "balance" and ADDING unnecessary steps INCREASES the likelihood of failure by increasing chances TO fail by adding additional steps.

Adding steps is not a replacement for proper training and proper training does not guarantee success, especially if more steps are involved.

A hard break in re-holstering will do more for safety than a mechanical device, IMO.

Just my thoughts. Carry safe and stay safe.
 

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I'm not understanding the hate here. This thing just allows you to holster the way folks have done with revolvers and hammer fired semi autos for decades...thumb on the back of the slide/hammer to prevent the gun from firing if anything got caught up in the trigger...and...keeps the slide in battery.

It's not a substitute for safe gun handling, like keeping your finger off the trigger still doesn't mean you sweep people with your muzzle.

Only issue I have with it is cost...I'd need four of them...
 

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The problem with "one more check and balance" is that it's not a "balance" and ADDING unnecessary steps INCREASES the likelihood of failure by increasing chances TO fail by adding additional steps.
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. Anecdotally, the way I reholster would already be considered safe and competent by most reasonable people (unless you're opposed to AIWB as a rule). Aside from never reholstering quickly, I look into the holster for obstructions, finger is high and away, indexed on the ejection port, gun is inserted into the holster canted away from body. Already my thumb is flagged on the backplate, though, prior to installing the "gadget" I didn't put much force on the backplate with my thumb; now I do. So, utilizing the "gadget" isn't in lieu of already safe processes, it's in addition to them. So, I'm not sure where the increase in likelihood of a ND during reholstering would be coming from.

Adding steps is not a replacement for proper training and proper training does not guarantee success, especially if more steps are involved.
Agreed. This doesn't make an incompetent person safer.
 

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Bottom line? They haven't been selling like hotcakes, we don't see people in droves reporting they've bought one or use it/
To be fair, it's a new product that just started shipping in January. I believe it circulated inside the industry and on forums but there's been no real advertising to speak of. Considering it was a project that had its genesis in crowdfunding, the first production runs have been relatively small.
 
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