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S&W M&P 9c or 640 Pro Series??

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#1 ·
With X Mas around the corner, I am looking to treat myself to something nice. (there will be another thread on a Dillon Press too in reloading).

I have been debating about a M&P since I got back into shooting on a regular basis, done my research and decided on the 9c for shoots and giggles, but then I have been debating about another J-Frame and I said, if I am gonna spend $600+ on a 640, 357 Magnum, I will get the Pro Series. Now, I have looked at the PD model, and WOW, that is lite, REALLY lite, but the gunshop sales person (politically correct) stated that the PD is mainly designed for carry, not extensive shooting, , which is not the case for me, I think I have put over 2K rounds of with .38 Special thur my 642 and 2K .38/.357 thur my Model 60.

So, $700+ for the 640 Pro Series??

Plus, the PD model runs about $900.

Now on to the M&P 9c, I just purchased a Glock 26 about 3 months ago, so it seems redundant. But at $477 at Budsgunshop, S&W M&P9c 12+1 9mm 3.5" $477.00 SHIPS FREE , WOW, I am looking local gunshop prices at $600+.

The Glock 26 is not being used, in my BUGOUT bag, (second BUGOUT BAG has a GLOCK 19).

Currently, my carry pistol is a my 642 when I am alone and Firestar M43, when I am with my family, (I carry more ammo with the M43). These is my summer carry pistols. When winter comes, I will mostly like go to the Berretta 92 Compact, with 2 extra 15 round magazine.


So, in a nutshell, M&P 9c, with the cost of getting carry gear?? or 640 Pro Series. Mmmm?? Decisions, Decisions??

If I decided on the M&P, 9c, it will be with in the next month, or by November, if the 940, by December, still need to add $$ to the $350, I currently have on hand.
 
#4 ·
I purchased an M&P9c about three months ago. It is the best carry gun I have owned. I absolutely love it. I almost did not purchase it after reading the same article you linked to but later found rave reviews. The M&P9c is not redundant with the M&P shield. Both are great guns but have different strengths. Just like the Glock 26 is not redundant because the Glock 43 is now out. Both have their place.
 
#18 ·
I think this just sum it up. I will have to save some more $$ for the 640 Pro Series, on the M&P, 9c or shield, I think I have it covered in GLOCK form. 19 and 26.


I have to say, I love my Model 60, I love getting 2 inch groups at 7 yards and hitting steel at 10 yards. Of course the 640 is a 2in revolver, but still like RebelSoul said, "...because...MAGNUM"
 
#14 ·
I think your right, I should have done a better research on comparison thread, as I have found many comparing the Glock 19/26 to the M&P Shield and 9c.

I am still leaning toward the 640 Pro Series, a great addition.
 
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#8 ·
I have owned & liked a S&W M&P Compact 9mm. I gave it the torture test taking it new out of the box through a two day, 1,000 round training course. It worked like a champ. I think its a much better weapon than that review indicates.

I have to say though, I hit better & easier with a Glock 19.
 
#15 ·
Call it "cheating", but I have qualified with my Glock 19 for my past 3 CHL courses, although, I don't carry it, in the past has mainly been a back up Home Defense Pistol, to my Beretta 92FS Brigadier with a SureFire light.
 
#9 ·
Well, I also would greatly prefer the 640 Pro to the PD (340, I think?). IMHO 11 ounces is too light for .38 +P, let alone .357 Magnum!

Between the 640 and the 9c, tough call, I'd love to have either. Probably the 9c would be more fun to shoot a lot.
 
#16 ·
One comment made at one of the guns shop when discussing the 640 and PD, was, "no, no, the 640 is REAL Steel, a man's gun, I prefer something I know will handle the .357 Magnum"
 
#19 ·
Like the sale person, the PD 340 is mainly for carrying, I like to shoot my pistols, ALOT.
 
#21 ·
I went with the 9c for the flexibility of flush mag and extended mag. The slight extra width over the shield not a big deal for me, and I think the grip is the same or a bit shorter even. I also liked the much more prominent safety lever. You can't help but take it off safety when sweeping on a draw vs. the slimmer types on other guns that would be worrisome. (obviously for those who want a safety). Also the rail is nice for a light as well for HD.
 
#23 ·
Short Answer: 1) Forget the Scandiums. 2) For a carry revolver, get an airweight. It's more veresatile than the 640 Pro. 3) If you want higher capacity and don't like practicing a lot with a revolver, go with the 9C.

Long Answer: I recommend not even thinking about a PD. These ultra-ultra light revolvers are hand stingers if you shoot .357's. Getting back on target will be very difficult. And you will not want to practice with them. You will end up carrying .38's. So you have shelled out about $400 more than a airweight and you end up carrying the same round. Waste of money.

If you want a light carry revolver, get a .38 SPCL airweight - 637, 639 or 642. About four ounces more than the PD's and about 50% the price, and about 5 ounces less than the 640 PRO, and about 70% of the price.

Now, onto the 640 PRO and M&P 9C. I have the 640 Pro. It's a nice carry gun to be sure. But I rarely carry it. When I do, I load it with .38's. And if I'm going to carry .38's, I go back to 637 or 642, which are lighter and easier for pocket carry. So the 640 Pro is relegated to the role of "Do you want to see my 640 Pro" gun. It's a very nice gun, and I would not part with mine, but I just think the airweights are better for carry.

I don't have a 9C, but I do have some a compact 45 and a CZ 75D PCR, which has a similar footprint to the 9C. If you want higher capacity, and you don't want to practice as much as you should with a revolver, get a 9C. Compact 9's *are easier* to shoot than a snub nose revolver. I had to practice a lot with my airweight until I could consistently dump five rapidly in the pie plate at 5 - 7 yards. On the other hand, the first time I shot my CZ 75D PCR, I did a 14 round rapid mag dump in the same area.
 
#24 ·
You loose so much of the energy and velocity from a 2" snubby it does not make the 357 really practical and only 5 rounds . I am a revolver guy but - get the m&p compact but is 9mm the best option or 135 gr 40sw or buy a 357 sig barrel and 9mm barrel for a m&p40c and still be money ahead over the .

Or you could buy one of these - We have both m&p's full and sub and p320's full and compact
SIG 320SC9B 320 9MM CS 12R BLK $549.99 SHIPS FREE
Or
SIG 320C9B 320 9MM STRKR Compact BLK 15R $549.99 SHIPS FREE
 
#25 ·
I guess, maybe I am just looking for something different to add to my current inventory for XMAS. (something well earned, like my Remington 700 SPS Tactical, that I pick up with Taxes)

I have a 642, and it is my current EDC, (summer), which is the reason I mentioned the 640 Pro Series, which is something different. But "YES" that would be a carry pistol as an alternative to the 642, gun weight has never really been an issue for me, so the difference in weight would not bother me.

On the M&P 9c, I figure that would be something different over what I currently own, when I think that I have a Glock 19 and 26, which I understand the the 26 is not much bigger then the 9c and with Glock 19 magazines, I have more capacity.


I think I will put some more $$ away and look to get the 640 Pro Series, just to have something different.

The only other pistol that I have, that I consider, in my opinion, "something different" is my Beretta 92G Compact, my old EDC, but please correct me, if I am wrong.
 
#26 ·
Some good news, I just sold some IT equipment, made myself some $$, add that to $$ on hand, $575, enough, to get the M&P 9c, if I wanted, maybe about $300 +/- to the get the Pro Series 640, but we have gunshow coming in November, so I might just wait until then. I might part with my old SIG 228, I don't shoot it as much as I used, my net me about $450. Doubt they will have the ProSeries 640, but you never know. I have been checking Bud'sGunShop and it show "out of stock". So I am wondering it the LOT of these particular run of pistols has run dry...
 
#30 ·
These new guys have been causing some problems for the local gun sellers, Buds, KyGunco, Etc. Might want to check with them on prices for either. Home | ECC

I just acquired a 9C today.. I'm a revolver guy, TALO SP101 357 2.25bbl is my EDC.

I don't know how I will use the 9C. I know some of it is 'new gun magic' but I'm really liking the thing. As soon as my son made it home we went to the backyard range (living in the sticks is great) and put a few boxes of rounds through it. Perceived Recoil is very light. Will it replace my snub flame thrower? No, but being honest that's probably as much as me being hard headed as practical. I'm glad I'm not in your shoes. On a different note, I'd like to find a 226 for $450. Most guys around here want your first and second born for them on the used market.
 
#31 ·
So, in a nutshell, M&P 9c, with the cost of getting carry gear?? or 640 Pro Series. Mmmm?? Decisions, Decisions??
I love revolvers, especially S&W. I have a bunch and my every day carry piece is a 642.

That said, I really like my M&P9c and whenever I have to requalify at the range for my CHL, it's what I use. I've read some reviews that criticize the trigger, and admittedly mine was stiff at first. But after several hundred cycles of dry firing and probably a hundred or so rounds down range, it smoothed out very nicely and now I'd never even consider changing it out for the popular Apex replacement.

I'd guesstimate that I now have well over 1000 rounds through it and it's been flawlessly reliable with everything I've fed it.

Ultimately, it's your call. I've had my M&P9c for nearly 8 years now and I'm very pleased with it.
 
#35 ·
It is a big debate, I may not shoot it anymore, but sure is a nice pistol. Very Nice.. That is all relative to the access of a Pro Series are the Gun Show.

As far as the M&P9c, I have to find it "used" under $400-$450, I debated and debated, read lots of reviews, since I have a Glock 19 and 26, it seems redundant, but for a good price, I will try one out. I have enough now. $575, but I will wait to see what I can find at the Gun Show, but that is in November. So, I have some more time to make a bit more $$ or save some $$.

Another reason, I am on the fence on the M&P9c, IDPA, with a 3in Barrel, it is classified as a BUG and I can not compete with a BUG regularly. Not that I would be able to compete with the 640, but as much as I love to shoot my Model 60 in "fun" gun matches, I am looking for a IDPA gun to carry and shoot, this is were the Glock 19 comes in to play, I just need to get a better holster. Been shooting my Beretta 92 Compact (F, D, G) in most IDPA competitions.
 
#36 ·
The 3" is for revolvers isn't it ?? If you carry glocks I would buy a few extra mags just for the g26 and use it or buy a g26 for idpa only and tune it for your needs . Polish trigger parts and maybe reduce loads and recoil spring weight .

I do own a number of handguns so I do understand wanting something new or different . I sure would be careful about dumping the sig for to low a price but that's just me .

If you see a p320 sc handle it as the 3.6" barrel would be a BUG . It is a far better shooter than the m&p9c with a shrap trigger break that will drop a 1.5lb pull weight as it breaks in and can be bought for just over your price range new . Have both large and small m&p's and p320s . Good luck with your new handgun what ever it is .

SIG SAUER P320 Sub-Compact 9mm Double Action Only Semi-Auto Pistol, 3.6" Barrel, Nitron Finish - SIG SAUER 320SC-9-B
 
#39 ·
8.2.6. Back Up gun (BUG)
8.2.6.1. Clubs may hold BUG matches where BUG guns compete in specially designed CoFs. BUG matches are club level only unless approved by IDPA Headquarters as a Specialty Match. To allow semi-automatic and revolver shooters to compete equally, all CoFs for BUG matches will be limited to five rounds per string, and firearms will start with five rounds maximum per string. No reloads may be performed on the clock.
8.2.6.2. A BUG match could consist of one or several stages, perhaps held at the same time as a normal club level match. A BUG stage could consist of a regular stage with a modified CoF procedure that complies with the five rounds per string limit.
8.2.6.2.1. Handguns permitted for use in BUG matches must:
8.2.6.2.1.1. Be single action, double action, double action only, or striker fired.
8.2.6.2.1.2. Be either semi-automatic or revolver.
8.2.6.2.1.3. Be a center fire caliber
8.2.6.2.1.4. Barrel length:
8.2.6.2.1.5. Semi-automatic: 3.8” or less.
8.2.6.2.1.6. Revolver: 3” or less.



So this puts the M&P 9c in the BUG Classification, I can not use in IDPA matches... I had a long talk with the SIG 228 and we promised to spend some more time together, maybe some of the upcoming matches after the Blade Tech Match in Oct. (way too good a gun to sell, I did come to my senses)..