[JT]

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/071305openletter.htm

No more parts kits to be imported. This means the complete kits minus receivers that many use to build AKs and FALs. They are nixing the barrel part of it. This will affect do it yourselfers and companies selling complete rifles that they have assembled from parts kits with US made receivers. It won’t affect rifles like VEPRS that are imported as complete rifles and then modified. But who knows if those will be next.

 

[Euclidean]

Another useless new gun law.

I understand there are provisions in the law to destroy C&R licenses too as well as stop the importation of handguns like the CZ-52 and the Makarov. Is there any truth to that rumor?

You gotta love how this supposedly pro gun adminstration hasn't passed the Citizen's self defense act, there's been no meaningful strides towards national CCW reciprocity, none of the bans have been repealed, and then they do crap like this.

It burns me up to think how easily we could set things right with just a few strokes of the President's pen, and yet it doesn't happen. It would not cost us a dime to solve most of our gun problems in this country. Just repeal the laws, which costs absolutely nothing.

 

[JT]

This isn’t even a law. It’s just another rule the ATF decided on. They can change the rules on imports whenever they want.

I haven’t heard anything pending against the importation of surplus handguns, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Maybe I need to pick up a Bulgarian Makarov like I have thought about doing, but never got around to. I don’t need one and I certainly don’t need another caliber in my collection, but they are cool and I would probably want one if I could no longer get one.

 

[Euclidean]

Good point JT. Many of the regulations the BATFE imposes are in fact written by people who aren't even elected.

 

[P95Carry]

And so it seems to go on - chip-chip-chip ......... nibble-nibble-nibble.

Keep wondering ever more about ''government by the people for the people'' ............ something has gone way off track. Can we say runaway train?

 

[Euclidean]

I just realized something.

I can tottally scrap any plans I may have ever had to get my mitts on an FAL.

Damn it.

 

[P95Carry]

Euc - surely not. You ought to be able to find something good pre-owned, even if you can't undertake a build.

 

[Euclidean]

Eh that may be. The catch is though I wouldn't do this for months, and by then the prices will be higher due to the fact you basically would have to either buy someone else's gun or else purchase the entire gun.

I had looked into having one built by a gunsmith company in Arizona late next year. They take an Imbel receiver and then build the rifle up around it with, guess what, a parts kit. Costs a cool $900+ dollars but tottally worth it and probably just as good as some of the really expensive ones.

It's probably just as well anyway. My only real fascination with it was its history and the fact I am overly obsessed with the idea that .308 is such a great caliber.

 

[Bud White]

Im with ya euc looks like im screwed on a Fal build got to many other 1911 project on plate right now be able to go out and buy one

 

[Euclidean]

Even though I think it has design features I don't like, I promised myself I'd try to get an AR-15 and some 30 round magazines for it before Hillary gets elected. I guess I'll focus on that now.

 

[Bud White]

you could always get a ar-15 in 308?

 

[Euclidean]

Possible. But I think if I were to build up an AR15 I'd go with the more common .223/5.56 for my first one. Plus check this out:

$475 for a complete Stag Upper

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/AR15_Accessories_&_Parts.html

And then get a complete M4 lower

http://www.eaglefirearms.net/stag_arms.htm

That'd be pretty darn cheap and I see no reason I couldn't bolt the two halves together myself with ease.

 

[Bud White]

that is good pricing

 

[rfurtkamp]

Makes me glad I've got some FAL spares stashed away. The lack of Imbel receivers is what's going to hurt.

I've never built on a Century.

I guess I get to learn.

 

[P95Carry]

I've never built on a Century.

At least you'd do a way better job than they often do Robert ! :biggrin:

 

[JT]

DSA makes an FAL with all new parts. The best FAL out there, but it will cost you about $1400. They also make one with mostly new parts except for the Austrian barrel. That will run you about $900-$1000. They probably have enough barrels that they are going to be making them for quite some time, but I would expect the price will go up.

The bottom line is this is going to affect the cheaper stuff. You will still be able to get AKs and FALs (for now - get them while you can), but it will be the higher dollar ones. They will even be able to import some parts, but that US made barrel is going to drive up the price.

 

[Euclidean]

Well that was kind of my point JT. I have to plan these things out well in advance. By the time I get there, I probably won't be able to afford it as the prices will be higher. Actually a better way to say it is that I'll be looking at my other options and realizing I can do better if I go with another firing platform.

Unless they ban the Romanian imports, I think that there will still be an affordable AK 47 clone option but the prices will go up somewhat to the point they won't be as desireable. The higher end AK clones will become even more expensive.

But this too makes the other systems look like better alternatives, as the whole point of the AK 47 clone is that it gets the job done but it's a whole lot cheaper than other platforms.

That's one reason I've kind of avoided considering an AR-15 seriously until I got something else first because for what you pay, you really don't get that much return on your investment. The firing platform itself is well overpriced.

But when you can find deals like the ones I just posted, and the prices of these other platforms suddenly jump $100 or more, the AR-15 system suddenly looks reasonable especially when you consider how flexible it is.

 

[armoredman]

I hope it doesn't kill the C&R stuff like the letter of it states, but in any case, I am going to squeeze hard, (worked two OT this paycheck) to get another Yugo.

 

[QKShooter]

Jt

Oh So...this will affect the Saturday Night Special assault rifles. :biggrin:

"The bottom line is this is going to affect the cheaper stuff. You will still be able to get AKs and FALs (for now - get them while you can), but it will be the higher dollar ones. They will even be able to import some parts, but that US made barrel is going to drive up the price."

 

[AZG23]

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Hope thats not true bout the Maks.....guess its time to get a few, one to refinish in NP3 and one to stash for later when they are double the price.!