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Seen this one? A California story...

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Seen this one? A California story.....

A Discussion With an Ammo/Firearms Salesperson

A Discussion With an Ammo/Firearms Salesperson - Politichicks.tv :: Politichicks.tv
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Just one more excellent reason to leave Commiefornia.
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From the article:

We’re told that if a woman claims to want a gun for home protection, she usually has intent to kill someone if they break into her home. With someone like you, you’d probably be denied right away.
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The problem is that a lot of our employees are very anti-gun, and believe there should be strict background checks so they turn almost everyone down. It’s different in each store location, but we’re in a very liberal area so it’s much harder to find 2nd-loving employees.
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Apparently that's what you can expect if you live in CA. I'd be interested to hear from some of you in CA about your experiences.
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Boomer928
Hmmmm... sounds like the indoctrination the kids are getting in school is working as planned. Sad.
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Frank: Now that’s a very interesting subject. You’ll probably be shocked to know that it’s up to all of us salespeople to decide who we personally think should and shouldn’t own a gun. We’re trained to look for signs, like fidgeting, nervousness, or even too much confidence. If we see any of those signs, we’ll usually deny them immediately.

A-M: You mean that’s all you have to do, just by looking at someone you can say ‘no, I’m not letting you buy a gun’?

Frank: Yep. And if a couple comes in and the woman does most of the talking, we’ll probably say no right away.
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I don't even......
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At least, with the employees deciding who they want to sell to you still can go to a store that will take your money.
It's their store, they should have the right to deny service to anyone. On the other hand you can deal with someone else and never spend another dime with them.
When the gov makes the rules your screwed.
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Wow. Just... Wow. I'm glad I live in Michigan!
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suntzu
Wow....I can write a story, use my source as anonomous, and you guys will beleive it if you agree with it? Wow, and we complain about the mainstream media being bad at credible reporting.
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suntzu said:
Wow....I can write a story, use my source as anonomous, and you guys will beleive it if you agree with it? Wow, and we complain about the mainstream media being bad at credible reporting.
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Anonymous sources are used all the time. That's how we found out about Watergate.
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maxwell97 said:
Anonymous sources are used all the time. That's how we found out about Watergate.
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Logical Fallacy-Rationalization and poor analogy.

Anyhoo, according to this gentleman he is talking about his store. In the article he says that if you want a gun to go to a gun show or another store which implies this is not a California issue, a mangerial issue at a single store.

The mans facts about ammo shortages is dead on.

Soooooo, we will just say the man is a real person and said what he said. Why is this a story about California when it seems to be the story of one gun store?
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I worked at the gun counter at Dick's (arguably a very anti-2A company) and we were never told to do any of this. Management did say that if you suspected something wasn't right, you should deny the sale, but that never included no selling to women or people wanting to use the gun for SD purposes. I agree with suntzu, if the story is true, it sounds like an issue with one store and not the whole process.
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B_2keys
unreal... she should have disclosed what store it was...
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Badey
So its OK to profile at this store? I thought that was illegal.
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I think the most hilarious part about this article is the "no buying guns and ammo at the same time" policy.
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ElMonoDelMar said:
I think the most hilarious part about this article is the "no buying guns and ammo at the same time" policy.
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More security theater. When you buy a gun at our local Academy, they escort you to the door. You don't get to hold the gun until you have exited. This would do nothing to stop their "perceived" threat of a customer shooting up the place. There is nothing to stop anyone from coming back in the store.
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That place TRUELY is a different world. Here in MO, I can walk into any gun store (including big box stores that sell firearms) and as long as I pass my NICS check, I can buy whatever I want with as much ammo as I can afford.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone turned away unless they don't pass the NICS check.

It wasn't always this way.

My first handgun purchase: back then you had to get a permit for a handgun from the county police. I had to go downtown to the main police station and fill out a form. Under the "reason for purchase" I put "my right under the 2nd Amendment". 14 days later a letter shows up saying I need to come back to the station. I did and said I was there to pickup my purchase permit, the gal behind the counter says "you need a valid reason to have a handgun". I said, "what are am valid reasons". After she finished with the list I said "all of those". She wrote "hunting" on my form and handed me my permit. (This was for a Beretta Cougar 8045 btw)

A short time later the laws were changed and my next handgun I walked in, said "I want that one", passed my NICS and headed to the range :)


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GhostMaker
The more I read and hear about California the more I have come to realize the folks who actually have common sense should leave for Texas......and put a "For Sale" sign up at the state line when they leave!:image035:
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BigStick
Does anyone know much about the author? I've never heard of politichick before. It could be made up, but I would not be at all surprised if it is an exact recounting of an actual conversation with a CA retail worker. You hear dumb enough stuff at real gun shops, I can only imagine some of the things that come out of the mouths of teenagers at retail stores in CA.
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I have no trouble believing this actually happened. And I doubt it's only one solitary store of only one retail chain. I could see these things happening in the more liberal areas of CA, and perhaps a few other states as well.
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BigStick said:
Does anyone know much about the author? I've never heard of politichick before. It could be made up, but I would not be at all surprised if it is an exact recounting of an actual conversation with a CA retail worker. You hear dumb enough stuff at real gun shops, I can only imagine some of the things that come out of the mouths of teenagers at retail stores in CA.
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I get e-mails from them all the time and as far as I know they are credible.
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