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I thinking of either a Taurus 709 Slim or a Taurus P111. Thoughts? I want to stay with the 9mm caliber. So please don't suggest any other caliber. I also want something under $400.
X 2I'd stick with the Bersa.
Don't want your new 9mm to be lonely, do you. You seldom get what it's worth for back up, spouse, or hideout. That way, as you save up for something really nice, a tool for life, you'll have a chance to consider the 40's and 45's. Anthing worth shooting with a 9 is worth shooting with a 45.I'd stick with the Bersa.
This is the P111 I'm looking at:I like my pt111, but don't carry it as often as my 24/7 Pro.
What size are you looking for? Do you want compact, sub compact, or will you go up to a more full sized pistol?
Well, I already have a Beretta Px4 Storm in 9mm so I have more than enough ammo, both FMJ (1,100+) and hollow points (440+) so there's no extra expense there. Then, I already have a holster that will fit either the Slim AND the P111, so no expense there. Both the Slim and the P111 come with two mags so no expense there.... hhmmm. I already tried the holsters I have sitting around on both guns and they're usable for these guns. I use WRB IWBs. And even if I did have to buy one, a WRB is less than $30.I hate to hear that you are parting with your Bersa .380. Finding ammo may be tough right now, and 9mm is a more powerful round, but the Bersa is perhaps the best of the PPK types available. I'll bet the day will come when you regret selling your .380. Since you already have a firearm, why not wait a bit and save up before buying a 9?
When you do buy a new pistol, bear in mind you will also need a holster for it, a spare magazine or two, a couple of hundred rounds of practice ammo so you and your new friend can bond, and enough defensive ammo to know the pistol will feed it reliably with enough left over for carry. The ammo, mags and holster will eat up $300-350 of your $400, leaving only a few bucks plus the money from the sale/trade of the Bersa. You will be limited to buying a very few models of very used 9mms.
Yes, I know I am a grouchy old killjoy, my wife tells me that all the time.
Nope.... I know a lot of people like them but I'd NEVER own a Kel-Tec... NEVER. I shot one once and my hand hurt like crazy after the first magazine... and yes, it was a 9mm. I feel the same way about Glocks. I know they have a following but I'd never own one. Actually I can't stand the way they feel in my hand and if it doesn't feel good in my hands, I won't shoot it well enough when it really counts. I'm also not too keen on buying anything used. Instead of suggesting other guns for CC, I'm more looking for comments on what you guys think about the two I'm thinking about... both good and bad points.How about a small, slim, lightweight, dependable 9mm...say a Kel Tec PF-9...with the LaserLite and pocket clip, it cost right around $400.
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TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Calibers: 9mm Luger
Weight unloaded: 12.7 oz.
Loaded magazine: 2.8 oz.
Length: 5.85"
Height: 4.3"
Width: .88"
Barrel Length: 3.1"
Capacity: 7 + 1
Yes, that's too big for me to want to carry daily. I'm looking at models that are for concealed carry. Although a 24/7 might be a good gun, I don't think it was meant to be for CC but I could be wrong.Your original post said you wanted something under 400 bucks, in a 9mm. It did not specify what size pistol you were wanting. I along with most other members of this forum know how big a PT111 or a 709 are.
The reason I mentioned the 24/7 is that it meets the criteria of under 400 bucks and 9mm, but holds 17+1 rds. Is that too big for you to carry daily?
Just another suggestion. If you go with the 709 try a Hogue Jr slip on grip. I loved the gun before I put it on but after.....it was even better!Nope.... I know a lot of people like them but I'd NEVER own a Kel-Tec... NEVER. I shot one once and my hand hurt like crazy after the first magazine... and yes, it was a 9mm. I feel the same way about Glocks. I know they have a following but I'd never own one. Actually I can't stand the way they feel in my hand and if it doesn't feel good in my hands, I won't shoot it well enough when it really counts. I'm also not too keen on buying anything used. Instead of suggesting other guns for CC, I'm more looking for comments on what you guys think about the two I'm thinking about... both good and bad points.