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I got my Shield 9mm back in January after waiting only about 2 weeks, which I was psyched about. I really like the gun. I like the way that it shoots. I like the trigger feel. I like the size of it with the extended magazine... However, I'm having failure to extract (FTE) issues that I thought I would let you all know about. After I got the gun, I got myself 200 rounds of Winchester White Box 115gr ammo. I shot that ammo, and I had 3 FTEs in those 200 rounds. I was a little alarmed by that failure rate, but I thought "It's a new gun, I'll keep shooting it and see what happens". So I got 100 rounds of Blazer Brass 115gr just to shoot something different to rule out it being an ammo issue. So I shot the 100 rounds of Blazer and had 2 FTEs. So at that point I had 5 FTEs in 300 rounds which was unacceptable in my eyes. So I initiated contact with S&W Customer Service. They got back to me in about 2 days and got me a return label to send it in. I sent it, and I had it back in about 2 weeks, which I thought was a good turnaround. S&W replaced the extractor and range tested the gun, and sent it back. I couldn't wait to shoot it once I got it back, so I went to the range. I shot 100 rounds of Blazer Brass 115gr, and 50 rounds of Lawman 115gr. Had 1 FTE at about my 30th round shot. I wanted to throw the gun! After that FTE at about round 30, the remaining 120 rounds went without issue. That was last weekend and I have not had a chance to shoot it again. I'll try to shoot again this weekend, and see what happens. I have my fingers crossed. Below are pictures of 3 of the first 5 FTEs for reference.... Again, I love the gun when it works, and S&W's Customer Service has been outstanding so far. I'm going to shoot some more and see what happens. If I get any more FTEs, it will be going back to S&W again, and I am confident that they will correct the issue.
 

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Could it be you? lol. I've never had my M&P malfunction, or have a FTE. In like 3000 rounds... I've shot the shield quite a bit as well, just not as high a round count..never an issue.

My GF had a FTE on her first shot with my M&P... I'm convinced it was her limp wristing....
 

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DragonFly, yeah, it could potentially be me. I have heard before about limp wristing being a possability, but I've had people who know what they are talking about watch me shoot and have not said anything. It is something that I can keep a closer eye on.

Tundra, I'm glad to hear that you have had no issues. I believe that if the issue is truly with the gun, that it is an isolated issue. I have not heard of a whole lot of issues with the shield with the exception of a few having issues with full magazines inadvertently releasing.
 

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My M&P 9C is at S&W right now for the same problem. I have seen other posts about FTE with some of the M&P models. I'm hoping when I get it back all is well. Sounds like your problem might be solved.
 

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Tundra, my brother is a good shooter, but he has never shot more than 1 or 2 magazines at a time through it, so it's not a good enough measuring stick. I'll have to have him shoot 100 or so through it and see what he comes up with.

Timbrr, hopefully you get yours taken care of. I hope mine is straightened out as well. Time will tell I guess.
 

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My Shield has been flawless. Did you clean and lube before your first trip to the range? Always a good idea since some Mfg's may use a heavier grease when packaging the gun for distribution. That could certainly affect cycling.
 

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I haven't had any problem with my Shield - got it two weeks ago with about 150 rounds through it.
 

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That stinks. The only problem in the 500 rounds of various ammo was a failure to lock on the last round once. The shield is very normally a great gun.

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My Shield has been flawless when I'm shooting, however it is a FTE-omatic for my wife. She has a tendency to limp wrist any semi-auto pistol that isn't her Bersa Thunder 380. Like others have said, make sure the gun and magazines are clean and make sure you have a good firm grip on the gun.
 

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Thanks I'll pay more attention to my grip as I continue to shoot. If it turns out to be the problem, I'll be extatic! I like the gun a lot, I just want to be confident in it.
 

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Oh, and WannabeaCPA, when you are shooting, pay attention to where your hand is on the gun. My brother had the slide fail to lock back on the last round on my Shield, but it turns out that his hand was inadvertently on the slide lock, which kept it from locking back.
 

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Hey buddy, my shield behaved very similar my first few range trips. The gun comes extremely tight from the factory IMO. It has loosened up some and now it is flawless and very very accurate. I wouldn't worry yet, Rack that slide about 100 times and dryfire the crap out of it and I think you will have better luck your next range trip. I was having ftf fte or doublefeeds as well as having to tap the back of the slide to get the gun to go fully into battery very often at first. I wouldn't send it to smith just yet ..
 

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Speaking about polymer frame subcompact pistols in general-

My father is a very experienced and incredibly good shooter. His experience is with rifles. The first shot he took with my Walther PPS, he induced a FTE. I think his trigger pull is very light. This makes for accurate rifle target shooting, but that is not what these light weight plastic pistols are for. These are defensive/combat shooting guns.

There isn't much frame mass to counter the slide momentum. There isn't even much slide mass to carry momentum to cycle the gun. In the case of thin slides like the PPS or Kahr, there is even less slide mass. The point is, once my father tilted his thumb toward the target to lock his wrist and concentrated on a firm grip, he had no more cycling issues.

After eliminating grip issues, I would look at the magazine (stiff spring not "broken in", weak spring, follower), and finally the extractor and spring. That is my order of most likely to least likely.

Oh, my PPS likes a slight film of grease under the bolt and a bit on the disconnector- just to maintain slide velocity. I don't know what the Shield forums are recommending.
 

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My new 9mm Shield is at S&W now. I also had failures to eject. I tried a few different types of ammo. I did seem to have more with +P ammo, but still had problems with standard pressure ammo. I own a few different semi-autos and have no history of limp-wristing or FTE issues, so felt it was the gun. I was going to use the Shield as an EDC, but instead picked up a new Glock 27. I have about 250 rounds thru it, all flawless.
 

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I bought my Shield 9 from a local gunsmith and since it was the first one he got in we checked it over pretty well. To our surprise the feed ramp still had tool marks on it and was pretty rough. He polished the feed ramp before I took it to shoot and I haven't had an issue with over 500 rounds shot.
I suggest you take the slide down and see if anything looks suspect.
 

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Pro - Hope your fix goes well

Enzo - I would hope that S&W would have looked at that when I sent it back, but that's a good thought, I'll check it out. Thanks

... Over the weekend I shot 250 rounds of Brown Bear Steel and had one FTE.
 
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