[SARR001]

Dunno if this is the appropriate forum for this, but I found it interesting.
Mods, move it if it's in the wrong place.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot5.htm

 

[P95Carry]

Hmmm, a new test - yummee! Well the two pics I have here which I hope hotlink OK show the 9mm (2 hits, one ball and one HP) and a .45acp ball. The 45 was not that spectacular!

Other stuff was tried and .223 went clean thru but a Breneke slug was what really worked :lol: It had tho a huge frontal area and 1566 ft lbs!!

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Steve - did you get my last PM?

 

[SARR001]

I did Sir. FFL closed today. Will call in AM.

 

[QKShooter]

Thumbs Up ~ Mighty Fine Thread Steve

Truly interesting.
Thanks for posting the thread.
That test was a new one on me & the photos were great.
I really enjoyed it.
That's my kinda bullet/cartridge testing. :biggrin:

 

[Bud White]

box o truth is always great i read the lock on awhile ago quite surprising

 

[rocky]

Ol' Painless strikes again. I know what I wanna do when I retire, follow in his footsteps and test fire on items. Hmmmmmmmm..............Anyone looking to hire me to do this job?

 

[P95Carry]

Anyone looking to hire me to do this job?

Sorry Rocky - I am almost there - join the queue dude :biggrin:

 

[SARR001]

I E-Mailed him a resume and bribe offer. No response. I'm guessing it wasn't his first. :biggrin:

 

[grnzbra]

There's one problem with this test; in the movies, they don't usually shoot the lock straight into the side. Instead, they tend to shoot it down from the top so that the force is applied to the points holding the lock in a locked state. Also, even if it didn't open the lock, if it blew the lock off the door, just as good as opening the lock.

Also, I don't believe that they use Master (or Master knock-off) locks in the old movies. Perhaps if it were tried with some vintage locks from the early 1900s, the result would be different.

 

[SARR001]

There's one problem with this test; in the movies, they don't usually shoot the lock straight into the side. Instead, they tend to shoot it down from the top so that the force is applied to the points holding the lock in a locked state. Also, even if it didn't open the lock, if it blew the lock off the door, just as good as opening the lock.

Also, I don't believe that they use Master (or Master knock-off) locks in the old movies. Perhaps if it were tried with some vintage locks from the early 1900s, the result would be different.

Good point. I think he wanted to show how different rounds impact the locks.
Have you looked at the rest of his site? He shoots H2O bottles, interior and exterior doors and walls, etc. Haven't seen him dhooting car doors, but I'm guessing that comes soon.

 

[grnzbra]

Yes, I have seen his site. A lot of interresting stuff there. However, for the lock test, I think the angle is wrong. As long as he doesn't destroy the points that hold the loop in place, it shouldn't unlock. Therefore, the test of the strength of the lock needs to have it shot at a different angle.

 

[Euclidean]

In essence, the reality of the thing is that shooting a lock open is dangerous and often ineffective not to mention a waste of ammunition.

Use the right tool for the job.

Here we go.

 

[rocky]

IIRC , the military has a special muzzle /flashhider on some M-16's just for lock cutting. Ya place the muzzle against the lock hoop and fire.

 

[MattInFla]

The lock the Box of Truth guy is referring to in Ronin was not a modern laminated padlock. It is an old plate sided lock, and looked pretty sorry. I think that a pistol round breaking that one was probably credible.

Matt

 

[SARR001]

Follow-up:
Have exchanged E-Mails with OP from the site. Asked if he could modify his test if I donated some new locks. He has responded that he can't figure out how to do it safely, so won't undertake it.

I'm thinking of using velcro or something with an angled backer board to hold the locks at an angle and trying the test myself. Gotta get my local range to sign off on it, though.

He is going to do a car door shoot soon. Will be interesting to see the results of that.

 

[P95Carry]

Hmmm - certainly a more challenging approach but could be - very interesting!!!:wink: If it does work out get a good loada pics - then OP can maybe use em on the ol' Box!

Car doors - oh my - yummee :smile:

(BTW - hope you'll find Jerry has ''goods'' soon!).

 

[SARR001]

I'm thinking a lock box similar to what he used, but with a 2X4 angled behind the locks with a piece of adhesive velcro attached. Wrap the locks with the other piece of velcro and push them back against the angled board. Should get me the angle I need to do the test.

 

[jarhead79]

There's one problem with this test; in the movies, they don't usually shoot the lock straight into the side. QUOTE]

You should also know, the locks they use in the movies, explode. They aren't real, and they'd never use bullets in a movie, but I guess that really doesn't answer any questions.

For the record, I'll also join the queue to shoot stuff.