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Yes, I'm planning on going tomorrow.

There are a lot of nice things there. S&W's new AR is interesting, tho I'm not sure there is a market for any more AR's.

FN has some great new guns, mostly for LE and Military use tho.

The new Kahr 45 is worth looking at. I just wonder how it'll shoot.
 

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WorldPax said:
<<<Begging<<< Close up pics of anything Steyr would be greatly appreciated. Additionally, I would be willing to pay shipping up front for any interesting handouts or materials from Steyr.
Send me a PM or an email with your address. I have the Steyr literature you asked for.
 

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Bud White said:



Check it out its got a Light Rail

357 Tactical or Tacticoool


Under it in the case is the two tone 460 performance center ... looks just like lew horton except 2 tone
Too bad that doesn't have fixed sights. Definitely interesting, how many rounds in the cylinder?
Jack
 

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Doesn't Say how many rounds..

I hope Smith is releasing some mid year stuff because most the revolvers they showed are nothing special i would want ..

Maybe the 327 airweight but nothing else really
 

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I just came back from SHOT today.

I went there with PW, the administrator of the Beretta Forum. I pretty much tried to hit all of the major firearms and LE manufacturers for a second or two and then dedicate some time talking to and/or handling some of the products. Here are some observations:

S&W will be a force to be reckoned with. The S&W M&P40 was displayed as were the same gun chambered in 9mm and 357 SIG. The gun feels great in the hand. Unlike the Beretta Px4, it already has support from several accessory manufacturers. I plan on buying one when I can. The S&W M&P15 is made by Stag Arms according to several "trusted agents" I spoke to. S&W can make them, but admit that Stag knows what they are doing, so they went to them to produce the rifle. For you LEOs and/or security specialists, S&W will produce a new 100-series handcuff with a lever as a second locking mechanism instead of a button....that is way cool!!! I need to get me one of those when they come out!

For you 10mm and .40 S&W fans, Taurus displayed Taurus Trackers in 10mm and .40S&W. They seemed like nice guns. They should be available later this year according to two Taurus employees I spoke to.

I visited (and drooled at) the Steyr booth which is reintroducing their fantastic S series handguns, albeit in in their new "A1" trim. The trigger pull and reset are fantastic; better than the trigger pulls on my Steyr M and S series guns. I also played with their AUG A3's which will not be available for another 12 to 18 months (approx.) and even then may not be available for sale to private citizens (just agency/individual LEO sales). I may purchase one when they are stocked by my local LE dealer.

A visit to Mec Gar was very productive, as I met their founder/president Edoardo Racheli who was a total gentleman. He was thrilled that I recognized their products and went to visit their booth which was unfortunately empty at times. They had a 20 round magazine for the Walther P99 (!!!) and a pre-production 18 round flush fit magazine for the Beretta 92 series (YOO HOO!) which should fit the new Beretta 90Two (more on that gun later).

I met iShot's Helmie Ashiblie who was a great guy, as is Alan Dugger from Sprinco. Helmie displayed two pre-production bags; one a computer case and the other a super discreet carbine bag what looked very cool.

SIGARMS had a ton of new products to include their 556 rifle which will be available to everyone (not just LEO's) some time around the end of the year. I WILL buy one of those when available. Sig Forum has photos of the rifle. Lots of new pistols were displayed to include new GSR Revolution variants for you 1911 fans, like Bruce, (including a compact version).

CZ was there with their Dan Wesson Razorback, PM7 and Global Hunter (6" barrel), all in 10mm. No CZ-75-type 10mm's are planned though so far....bummer! The Dan Wesson Global Survivalist (5" barrel) was also there, but will (so far) only be available in .45 ACP.

Kahr will have a TP45 which is the closest thing to a service sized pistol in their line. I met Kahr founder Justin Moon who was cool as heck. Moon will neither confirm or deny that there will be a PM45, but it will theoretically be equipped with a five-round mag.

On to Beretta.....I was not happy with them; most of their folks there were extremely rude in my opinion. Their railed 92-variants (like the Vertec) will disappear in favor of the 90Two (booo) which will have a polymer frame with interchangeable grip assemblies and a rail. One of the two grips has a straight backstrap profile a' la Vertec, but is thicker than the Vertec...hence, it does not fit my hands. The slide-mounted decocker/safety is low profile, so "on safeing" the displayed F-variant 90Two was difficult for me. The Px4 handgun in their Type C is nice....Px4's in G (decocker, no manual safety), F (manual safety and decocker), C (Glock-type trigger with slick slide), and D (slick slide DAO) were present. Their new Rx4 rifle won't be available for about 18 more months and forget about private citizen sales...that is, so far, not planned. The Rx4 displayed there was only about "95%" complete according to one Beretta person on-hand.

Walther will bring back the Anti Stress-triggered P99's 9mm and .40 in both full and compact sizes which is great as I love my P99AS! A great change to the P99's is the addition of a long magazine lever. It cannot be readily fitted to "older" P99's according to one Walther/S&W person on-hand since one would have to grind away material from the trigger guard to fit it.

FN had at least two of their SCAR rifles on hand that may be produced for the civilian market down the road...maybe. It's a slick handling rifle. The F2000 bullpup with it's front ejection system was there and it's another slick rifle. According to one FN employee present, that will be available to the U.S. market for one and all; I don't recall exactly when, but sometime over the next eight months sticks to my mind. I like the way it felt a little bit more than the Steyr AUG A3, so I plan on adding one to my collection as well.

Glock had no new products.....I managed to get into their swanky 20th anniversary banquet on Friday evening....I had a blast. Gaston Glock was there (as were every Glock honcho) and he was quite the dancer.

There were other interesting items displayed such as a Glock replacement metal frame with replaceable backstraps and a Kel Tec single stack 9mm pistol.

I'm sure I'm missing some great products I saw, but the aforementioned ones stick to my mind....sorry if I missed something.
 

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Oh...I missed HK....there were no P3000's on display which was strange. The HK 416 rifle was there and it was a beaut. I did not ask if it would ever be available for non-military/LEO sales here in the U.S.....and yes, the P7 will not be ever made again according to one HK employee on hand. She said the last ones were made and shipped to the U.S. well before SHOT but that parts should be available for a while.
 

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Anytime!

I wish I took photos though, but it's tought to beat Dr. Ken Lunde's work (mostly posted on the Sig Forum). I got to meet him as well....nice guy.
 
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