Should have got this a long time ago, Glock 22

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CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · Aug 28, 2016

I recently got a new Gen 3 Glock 22.
First thing, I removed the finger grooves (protrusions), installed night sights, and a Lone Wolf steel striker, extractor & locking block.
Today, I endured 94 degree temperature (heat index 112 degrees) to test the Glock 22.
I shot a variety of ammo, including various hollow points, there were no malfunctions and no brass was thrown toward my face / head.
The Glock 22 seemed softer shooting (less snappy) than the 23, subjectively recoil felt like shooting the Glock 21 (45 acp) with a moderate load.
I like this pistol and can see it being a favorite for carry as an alternate to the model 21.
15 + rounds of 40 S&W with moderate felt recoil, should have got a Glock 22 a long time ago.

Chrono data (94 degrees)
Glock 22:
Remington UMC 180 gr. @ 957 fps / 366# KE
Federal Hydra-Shok 180 gr. @ 963 fps / 371# KE
Winchester White Box 180 JHP @ 964 fps / 372# KE
Speer Gold Dot 180 gr. @ 975 fps / 380# KE
Federal HST 180 gr. @ 996 fps / 397# KE

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Tennessee Jed

· #2 · Aug 30, 2016

Awesome gun.

Seems like all the tacti-cool kids are moving to 9mm Glocks, but I have to wonder why. Seems to me the G22 has performed admirably for a very long time in law enforcement. I predict that years from now, when the tide of thought has shifted, a whole lot of people will wish they'd gotten a G22 when they had the chance.

I have to ask, by what method did you remove the finger bumps? I'd like to do the same on a couple of my Glocks.

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Old Man

· #3 · Aug 30, 2016

Tennessee Jed said:
Awesome gun.

Seems like all the tacti-cool kids are moving to 9mm Glocks, but I have to wonder why. Seems to me the G22 has performed admirably for a very long time in law enforcement. I predict that years from now, when the tide of thought has shifted, a whole lot of people will wish they'd gotten a G22 when they had the chance.

Nice bargains showing up on G22, G23, G27, and M&P 40 now with the switch overs to 9mm with various law enforcement agencies.

CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 30, 2016

Tennessee Jed said:
Awesome gun.

Seems like all the tacti-cool kids are moving to 9mm Glocks, but I have to wonder why. Seems to me the G22 has performed admirably for a very long time in law enforcement. I predict that years from now, when the tide of thought has shifted, a whole lot of people will wish they'd gotten a G22 when they had the chance.

I have to ask, by what method did you remove the finger bumps? I'd like to do the same on a couple of my Glocks.

9mm bullets benefited from bullet enhancement that was not applied to 40 & 45

- HST can only be had in 9mm

The shift to 9mm factors cost and "employee limitations" with the rationalization that "they perform about the same".

You're right. Circular pattern.

I used a Dremel sandpaper wheel to remove majority (stippling with a small circular bit) and sandpaper.

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CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 30, 2016

Old Man said:
Nice bargains showing up on G22, G23, G27, and M&P 40 now with the switch overs to 9mm with various law enforcement agencies.

I bought mine new, perhaps I should have looked at the used market.

Bigsteve113

· #6 · Sep 1, 2016

Carried a Glock 22 from 1994 til 2012 (when I switched to a G23 that I currently carry). I had ZERO complaints or issues. Mine was a Gen 2. Great guns.

103830

· #7 · Sep 2, 2016

They should take a 40 cal case, extend it 3.6 mm, put a large pistol primer in it, add about 5 grains of powder, and then you would really outperform a 9mm.

CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #8 · Sep 2, 2016

Bigsteve113 said:
Carried a Glock 22 from 1994 til 2012 (when I switched to a G23 that I currently carry). I had ZERO complaints or issues. Mine was a Gen 2. Great guns.

I tried to make a Gen 2 out of it, remove finger grooves & steel small parts.

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SouthernBoyVA

· #9 · Sep 2, 2016

I have a gen4 G22 and it is one fine full size semi-auto. It's little brother, the G23, is the best combat handgun you can carry, according to a well known gun writer.

DHart

· #10 · Sep 2, 2016

CDW4ME said:
9mm bullets benefited from bullet enhancement that was not applied to 40 & 45 - HST can only be had in 9mm

Actually, HST is offered in all three defense calibers. It is my carry load in .40S&W and .45acp.

The G22 is a good pistol. A bit more comfortable to shoot than the G23.

My preference is for the M&P40 and the P320, though I keep a G22 Gen 4 and a G23 Gen 4 in the safe, just because.

I like .40S&W quite a bit. In the right pistol, it is a very soft and quite enjoyable caliber! The M&P40 has been my EDC pistol, though now I'm transitioning over to a P320 in .40S&W for EDC.

CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #11 · Sep 2, 2016

DHart said:
Actually, HST is offered in all three defense calibers. It is my carry load in .40S&W and .45acp.

The G22 is a good pistol. A bit more comfortable to shoot than the G23.

I was being sarcastic, HST 40 is the warmest 180 gr. load I chronographed.
Law Enforcement - Federal Premium LE, Speer LE, BLACKHAWK!, Eagle - Load Comparison
According to the maker ^ here is how the three most popular police / defensive calibers perform in heavy clothed gel:
HST 147 gr. 9mm: 12.5'' / .69
HST 180 gr. 40: 12.5'' / .80
HST 230 gr. 45: 13.5'' / .87
Performance of 9mm HST is good and may be equal to or even surpass older "bigger" bullet designs like 40 Hydra-Shok, but "apples to apples" the difference is still there.

DHart

· #12 · Sep 2, 2016

CDW4ME said:
I was being sarcastic, HST 40 is the warmest 180 gr. load I chronographed.
Law Enforcement - Federal Premium LE, Speer LE, BLACKHAWK!, Eagle - Load Comparison
According to the maker ^ here is how the three most popular police / defensive calibers perform in heavy clothed gel:
HST 147 gr. 9mm: 12.5'' / .69
HST 180 gr. 40: 12.5'' / .80
HST 230 gr. 45: 13.5'' / .87
Performance of 9mm HST is good and may be equal to or even surpass older "bigger" bullet designs like 40 Hydra-Shok, but "apples to apples" the difference is still there.

Yes, indeed. HST is a great choice. Gold Dot and Ranger are similarly good, though.

That extra 1" of penetration and near 10th" of expansion for the .45auto is sweet. I'm still mostly choosing HST in .40S&W for carry as I like the combination of terminal ballistics and high capacity. When launched with my M&P40 and P320, the load is also soft-shooting and quite enjoyable. Too enjoyable to shoot actually, as it costs in the pocketbook!

Hydra-Shok has been a lame "has-been" load for quite some time. I'm surprised it is still being used by some people. Surprised it is still being marketed.

CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 3, 2016

DHart said:
Hydra-Shok has been a lame "has-been" load for quite some time. I'm surprised it is still being used by some people. Surprised it is still being marketed.

Years ago Hydra-Shok was regarded as one of the best, I imagine that many people that were shooters in the 90's (like myself) have not seen tests where Hydra-Shok may plug on heavy clothing and not expand; I'm more "into" guns than the average person and I didn't learn it until recently.

Ranger T may plug as well, I've seen videos of it so I tested for myself; I put 4 layers denim in front of gallon jugs filled with water, Ranger T 127 +P+ shot from a Glock 26 expanded nicely without denim, with the denim it blew through four jugs and kept going (holes looked not expanded). Golden Saber 124 +P doesn't shed its jacket on bare jugs; but, it did shed with the denim, jacket was recovered in the 4th jug (still pretty good IMO). 124 +P HST expanded perfectly with or without denim, excellent performance.

Lucky Gunner tests included Hydra-Shok:
http://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/
9mm 147 Hydra-Shok and 45 acp 230 Hydra-Shok failed to expand when shot through heavy clothing from a short barrel.
40 S&W 180 Hydra-Shok did pretty good 16.4'' / .60 (932 fps)
If I didn't have 180 HST or Gold Dot, I would be satisfied to carry "old school" 180 Hydra-Shok in the Glock 22.

I agree, not sure why they continue to make a competing product to HST that doesn't perform as well.

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DHart

· #14 · Sep 3, 2016

I would carry Hydra-Shok as well, if it was the best I could get my hands on.

Fortunately, HST, Gold Dot, Ranger, and Golden Saber are on the scene. I haven't fired any Hydra-Shok in probably 15 years.

We sure have a fantastic selection of firearms and ammunition to choose from these days!

SDGlock23

· #15 · Sep 4, 2016

The G23 might be my overall favorite BUT in very close second for me is the G22. I have a Gen4 G22 that just shoots awesome, very accurate and fun to shoot.

Texgun

· #16 · Sep 7, 2016

Hope you truly enjoy it.

To me, it just does not make sense to buy a new gun and have to do that many changes to it. JMO.

dtordahl

· #17 · Sep 7, 2016

CDW4ME said:
I recently got a new Gen 3 Glock 22.
First thing, I removed the finger grooves (protrusions), installed night sights, and a Lone Wolf steel striker, extractor & locking block.
Today, I endured 94 degree temperature (heat index 112 degrees) to test the Glock 22.
I shot a variety of ammo, including various hollow points, there were no malfunctions and no brass was thrown toward my face / head.
The Glock 22 seemed softer shooting (less snappy) than the 23, subjectively recoil felt like shooting the Glock 21 (45 acp) with a moderate load.
I like this pistol and can see it being a favorite for carry as an alternate to the model 21.
15 + rounds of 40 S&W with moderate felt recoil, should have got a Glock 22 a long time ago.

Chrono data (94 degrees)
Glock 22:
Remington UMC 180 gr. @ 957 fps / 366# KE
Federal Hydra-Shok 180 gr. @ 963 fps / 371# KE
Winchester White Box 180 JHP @ 964 fps / 372# KE
Speer Gold Dot 180 gr. @ 975 fps / 380# KE
Federal HST 180 gr. @ 996 fps / 397# KE

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I have a Gen 2. If you don't need the accessory rails, it's a great gun. -Dave

CDW4ME

Discussion Starter · #18 · Sep 7, 2016

Texgun said:
Hope you truly enjoy it.

To me, it just does not make sense to buy a new gun and have to do that many changes to it. JMO.

Glock doesn't currently offer what I wanted, so I made it. :biggrin2:

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