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Took the wife and daughter to shoot the P238 in Rainbow Titanium today. All I can say is, what a pile of crapola! Misfeeds, double feeds, stove pipes, and all kinds of headache. Out of 75 rounds, I got maybe one mag out of it without fail. I am sure Sig can fix it, but the wife hates it now. And double whammy for me, she shot the hell out of my Kimber Ultra. She wants it for herself!

My Kimber went through 200 rounds of dirty, crappy ammo without issue. I shot PMC, Magtech, and Zero brands. The Zero's were 185gr hollow points, all else was 230gr ball. Even with my wife and daughter shooting with questionable form, it just kept on feeding round after round. It took me FOREVER to clean it and it was soooo mucked up with powder, yet never missed a beat! I love it! And my wife shot 2" groups at 7 yards (first time shooting it). I used to think I was a good shot, now I am pretty sure it is the gun :embarassed:

Anyways, Sig Sauer really made a pooch of a pistol that I paid a lot of money for and I am not happy with them. The Kimber on the other hand is still flawless since unboxing.
 

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My wife's P238 has been dead nuts reliable since the first 50 rounds. Did you strip it and lube it before you took it out?
Absolutely I did. Performed a clean and lube per the instructions. According to my research this is not an uncommon issue.
 

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How old is the Sig? They made some changes to them a year or so ago to fix the problems.

I had a very early p238 that was garbage but I bought one for my GF in November that works perfectly.
 

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It sucks when you pay good money for a shooter and it winds up being a paperweight. I never had good luck with minuscule guns unless they were j frames or PPK pistols.

That's why I stay away from the current crop of smallish guns that are all the rage these days. If its got to be deep concealment give me a time proven model chambered for a cartridge for which it was originally designed.
Some have luck with them, but I suspect if the truth were told, most don't have the utmost confidence in the current " micro" guns they claim work so great.
 

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I agree, I stick with proven platforms for carry. I have several newer semi autos I take to therange but stik with my snubs for cc.
 

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I have shot several different kinds of ammo thru my 238 and have had no failures of any kind. It is my main edc. I guess everyone has issues at times. I would be disappointed also. Hope it gets fixed.
 

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It sucks when you pay good money for a shooter and it winds up being a paperweight. I never had good luck with minuscule guns unless they were j frames or PPK pistols.

That's why I stay away from the current crop of smallish guns that are all the rage these days. If its got to be deep concealment give me a time proven model chambered for a cartridge for which it was originally designed.
Some have luck with them, but I suspect if the truth were told, most don't have the utmost confidence in the current " micro" guns they claim work so great.
Truer words I have not heard. I only bought the Sig because my wife said she would actually carry a gun that was "rainbow titanium". After the range trip today she only wants a 1911 and she only wants a .45acp. I told her she could get the Kimber in 9mm and she said "is that one as big as yours", I said "nope", she said "no, I want a 45". I smiled.

It does suck though, I am out over $700 clams for a paperweight as you said. Did not expect this from Sig. I do not know when this particular gun was made, only that the guy I bought from said he bought it a few months ago. Who knows? And yes, I ran several types of ammo through it. It performed worse with round nose lead than hollow points.
 

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Truer words I have not heard. I only bought the Sig because my wife said she would actually carry a gun that was "rainbow titanium". After the range trip today she only wants a 1911 and she only wants a .45acp. I told her she could get the Kimber in 9mm and she said "is that one as big as yours", I said "nope", she said "no, I want a 45". I smiled.

It does suck though, I am out over $700 clams for a paperweight as you said. Did not expect this from Sig. I do not know when this particular gun was made, only that the guy I bought from said he bought it a few months ago. Who knows? And yes, I ran several types of ammo through it. It performed worse with round nose lead than hollow points.

To add insult to injury, I just got my Pure Kustom Holster (bought it new but from a private party who didn't want it) and I don't like it. Seems too hard to be comfortable. I am striking out big time today.
LOL! Its called the "law of averages" my friend. You get to goin thru guns like you have been doing, and sooner or later you will get a problem child. I used to be the same way. I kept myself broke, and the LGS in profits, till I finally got settled on what I like and got comfortable with that.

I'd send it back, let'em fix it, and sell it, and get that gal a 1911 in 45. Then the world will be right as rain once again.
 
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LOL! Its called the "law of averages" my friend. You get to goin thru guns like you have been doing, and sooner or later you will get a problem child. I used to be the same way. I kept myself broke, and the LGS in profits, till I finally got settled on what I like and got comfortable with that.

I'd send it back, let'em fix it, and sell it, and get that gal a 1911 in 45. Then the world will be right as rain once again.
Wise words. Glad the sickness gets better over time. Gotta say, this 3" Kimber has all the makings of a great carry piece. So all I have to do is find one for her and then quit buying guns! Honestly, the best thing for me would be if the expanded background legislation passed and armslist.com was shut down, I have no self control!
 

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(Wife) shot the hell out of my Kimber Ultra. She wants it for herself! And my wife shot 2" groups at 7 yards (first time shooting it).
After the range trip today she only wants a 1911 and she only wants a .45acp. I told her she could get the Kimber in 9mm and she said "is that one as big as yours", I said "nope", she said "no, I want a 45". I smiled.

It does suck though, I am out over $700 clams for a paperweight as you said.

Downside is: you need to do a couple of transactions and you'll likely be out a few hundred.

Upside is: you've got a .45ACP convert, a 1911 convert, as well as someone who can out-shoot you who's on your security detail. Good day at the range, too!

Hard to argue with that. Draw a long, cold one, sit back and revel in how good life can be.

Congratulations to your wife, along with her new nickname: Sniper. :tongue: :bier:
 

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Yeah, my wife owns every gun I think is mine, to the point where I have to confer with her before I trade or sell. But the up side is I am still allowed to buy without congressional approval.
 

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Downside is: you need to do a couple of transactions and you'll likely be out a few hundred.

Upside is: you've got a .45ACP convert, a 1911 convert, as well as someone who can out-shoot you who's on your security detail. Good day at the range, too!

Hard to argue with that. Draw a long, cold one, sit back and revel in how good life can be.

Congratulations to your wife, along with her new nickname: Sniper. :tongue: :bier:
Great post! Never thought about the fact that she may in fact have to cover my six!

Here is a quick 4 round video I took of the wife. The target looks terrible at distance, but my daughter had been plugging away at it. She doesn't shoot so well..........


Here's my 19 year old daughter, she needs some work. I tried, but she doesn't like advice from poppa bear! Funnily, between my wife and daugther my range trip cost me $100 and they shot all the ammo. I got to put maybe 3 mags through my own gun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX0AWXBGOKc&feature=youtu.be
 

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My p238 has never failed me once... I have heard some Kimber horror stories too. I wouldn't write off the p238 just because Sig made one bad gun. If you don't trust your own p238, contact Sig and have them make it right... good luck, and glad the Kimber worked on range day (got my eye on a Pro Carry II).
 
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My p238 has never failed me once... I have heard some Kimber horror stories too. I wouldn't write off the p238 just because Sig made one bad gun. If you don't trust your own p238, contact Sig and have them make it right... good luck, and glad the Kimber worked on range day (got my eye on a Pro Carry II).
Yea, I know plenty of people may have great p238's. I'm gonna probably send to Sig to see what they say, then sell as Glockman10mm said. I heard all those Kimber stories too, but both my Ultra and Pro Carry 2 never failed one time right outta the box. Accuracy is ridiculous. I suppose I should say the Sig was plenty accurate too, when it ran.
 

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Took the wife and daughter to shoot the P238 in Rainbow Titanium today. All I can say is, what a pile of crapola! Misfeeds, double feeds, stove pipes, and all kinds of headache. Out of 75 rounds, I got maybe one mag out of it without fail. I am sure Sig can fix it, but the wife hates it now. And double whammy for me, she shot the hell out of my Kimber Ultra. She wants it for herself!

Anyways, Sig Sauer really made a pooch of a pistol that I paid a lot of money for and I am not happy with them. The Kimber on the other hand is still flawless since unboxing.
Hey, as I recall, you were ogling her P238. Sounds like it's time for a swap. :smile:

Seriously, I feel your/her pain. :frown: I had such a great experience with my P238, I just couldn't wait to get my hands on a P938. First one I got, literally wouldn't shoot 3 times without an FTE. Didn't matter who was shooting it or what ammo (and we tried EVERYTHING). Took it back to LGS and got another. This one was somewhat better but still won't shoot 100 rounds without an FTE. Absolutely unacceptable for an $800 CARRY gun. Sorry she got a lemon. It stinks.

l think your wife has good taste in guns though. My husband has a .45 Kimber Ultra Carry that I *love* shooting at the range. Great looking gun, too. If I were willing to make the wardrobe changes necessary to wear a gun belt all day every day, I'd carry one.
 

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l think your wife she has good taste in guns. My husband has a .45 Kimber Ultra Carry that I *love* shooting at the range. Great looking gun, too. If I were willing to make the wardrobe changes necessary to wear a gun belt all day every day, I'd carry one.
This is something we discussed at length today. Not sure what to do cause I don't see my wife dressing the way she'd have to to conceal the 1911. May have to go "gun purse" shopping at the LGS. He has some Galco and other hand bags that are purpose built for gun carry. I hope she finds one she likes because if she isn't concealing the gun on her person then I can buy her another Pro Carry 2 and steal it from time to time. :danceban:
 
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