Sig p239 owners - safe carry?
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To the Sig 239 owners, how do you carry? Chambered with the hammer down? Chambered with the hammer cocked? Or unchambered? I recently got a 239 SAS gen2, and want to make sure I'm carrying it as safely as possible. I'm planning on chambered hammer down. What about the rest of you?
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Not sure what the decocker has to do with unholstering and firing the gun. But maybe I don't understand your question/point.
I carry a 239TT with a round chambered and decocked using the decocker, because this method lets the hammer fall to the intercept notch and the firing pin safety is never deactivated. Pulling the trigger and thumbing the hammer down deactivates both of those safety mechanisms.
When I holster it, I put my thumb on the side of the hammer so I can feel it start to raise if something in or around the holster is pushing the trigger rearward. The long DA portion of the DA/SA trigger makes it very safe, at least to my way of thinking.
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huh?
i carry my 239/9mm with a chambered round and the hammer lowered using the decocking lever. my guess is that most Sig owners do the same.
if you're uncertain about the safety of carrying the gun with a round in the chamber, perform the following drill. with an un-loaded gun, please. it doesn't matter whether you have no mag in the gun or an empty mag to do this. with finger off the trigger, note the position of the hammer: it's NOT contacting the back of the slide and thus the firing pin. there is about a 1/8" gap between the hammer and the slide. try pushing the hammer forward - it won't go. then, with an empty gun, point the gun in a safe direction, and pull the trigger AND HOLD IT TO THE REAR. then look at the position of the hammer - it's still 1/8" away from the back of the slide, having struck the firing pin when you pulled the trigger and rebounded. now, while continuing to hold the trigger back, try again to push the hammer forward against the rear of the slide, and you will find that the hammer can now be pushed against the back of the slide. now release the trigger and let it go forward. try once again to push the hammer against the back of the slide and the firing pin. it won't go forward. this is because the hammer is once again blocked from the firing pin. there is no way, barring a severe mechanical failure, that the hammer can hit the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled.
so you can carry a Sig with a chambered round and nothing will cause that round to fire except pulling the trigger. you could drop the gun on the hammer or on the muzzle and the gun won't go off. this is true for virtually every modern-designed firearm that i know of.
if you're uncertain about the safety of carrying the gun with a round in the chamber, perform the following drill. with an un-loaded gun, please. it doesn't matter whether you have no mag in the gun or an empty mag to do this. with finger off the trigger, note the position of the hammer: it's NOT contacting the back of the slide and thus the firing pin. there is about a 1/8" gap between the hammer and the slide. try pushing the hammer forward - it won't go. then, with an empty gun, point the gun in a safe direction, and pull the trigger AND HOLD IT TO THE REAR. then look at the position of the hammer - it's still 1/8" away from the back of the slide, having struck the firing pin when you pulled the trigger and rebounded. now, while continuing to hold the trigger back, try again to push the hammer forward against the rear of the slide, and you will find that the hammer can now be pushed against the back of the slide. now release the trigger and let it go forward. try once again to push the hammer against the back of the slide and the firing pin. it won't go forward. this is because the hammer is once again blocked from the firing pin. there is no way, barring a severe mechanical failure, that the hammer can hit the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled.
so you can carry a Sig with a chambered round and nothing will cause that round to fire except pulling the trigger. you could drop the gun on the hammer or on the muzzle and the gun won't go off. this is true for virtually every modern-designed firearm that i know of.
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Chambered, hammer down. That's how it was designed to be carried.
It IS NOT a 1911-style pistol.
The safety is between your ears and keeping your booger-hook off the bang switch.
The decocker is there to drop the hammer safely. I will block the firing pin and prevent the gun from discharging when letting down the hammer.
DO NOT "thumb down" the hammer. If/when you do so: it is contrary to the safe operation of the firearm; if/when you have a negligent discharge and you will break your thumb, and hopefully not put a hole in somone else (or yourself)
It IS NOT a 1911-style pistol.
The safety is between your ears and keeping your booger-hook off the bang switch.
The decocker is there to drop the hammer safely. I will block the firing pin and prevent the gun from discharging when letting down the hammer.
DO NOT "thumb down" the hammer. If/when you do so: it is contrary to the safe operation of the firearm; if/when you have a negligent discharge and you will break your thumb, and hopefully not put a hole in somone else (or yourself)
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Sorry OldMick, After reading the post I realized that it was confusing. When I tried to edit it, I must have deleted it. Oh well.....
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Not a problem, I'm sure some of mine fall into the same category. :smile:
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The firing pin block prevents the firing pin from striking the primer...the trigger must be pulled, thus moving the firing pin block out of the way (also known as the "Safety Lock" (part #13 on your parts list as shown in the users manual.
As designed, and if in proper working order, the pistol will not fire if dropped. This does NOT take into consideration fumble finger attempting to "catch" said P239 in mid-air, activating the trigger and creating a negligent discharge..."it just went off!!"
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