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Finally got to the range with the pistol I originally posted on here:
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbull...423-sig-porn-p239-sas-gen-1-dak-two-tone.html
I ended up putting 250+ rounds down range, consisting of 100 WWB FMJ, 100 Federal Champion FMJ, 50 American Eagle FMJ, and 16 Remington Golden Saber 147gr BJHP.
Function:
In a word: FLAWLESS. 100% silky smooth Sig perfection. Everything fed perfectly, controls were perfect, slide worked like it was on ball bearings. Couldn't have been any better.
Ergonomics:
Very good. Extremely comfortable grip angle and girth. Controls right where they should be. Maybe a little top heavy, and the bore axis is a bit high.
Recoil:
Surprisingly sharp for 9mm. Most likely due to the high bore axis. It was controllable, but actually felt similar to my G30sf as far as overall recoil. Follow up shots were not an issue, but definitely could be better with a more stable platform. Still a very comfortable gun to shoot due to the fantastic ergonomics - I could shoot this thing all day and not get tired of it.
Sights:
This piece comes with a SigLite front tritium sight and standard rear sight. Overall, not bad. Did not shoot in low light, so can't really say much about the SigLite other than it seemed to work good in dry fire drills around the house. I would prefer a bit larger sights (big dots?)and may go that route in the future.
Accuracy / Trigger:
Here's where it gets a bit interesting. Obviously according to the thread title we are dealing with the DAK trigger here. Let me first say that the DAK is extremely smooth, relatively light and very pleasant to shoot. However, there is a bit of a learning curve.
Any bad shooting habits will be multiplied by this trigger, and I have a few that it definitelty brought out. My accuracy left MUCH to be desired in the first 100 rounds or so. Everything was COM at combat distances, but the groups were very loose. Definitely a bad day for any BG that popped up, but still disappointing with a firearm I am so obviously excited about.
I set the Sig down for a while and put 100 rounds through my G30sf. Good grief, I was knocking the x ring out of everything with the Glock. SO much better with that trigger. Not to be deterred, I went back to the 239 and gave it another shot.
This time, I concentrated on using the short reset that the DAK provides on follow up shots. Shot one would be the long DAK pull, with the rest of the mag using the reset. Now I started to see some results. The short reset on the DAK is a SUPER short pull with an extremely crisp break, which really reminds me of my Glock trigger. I was still not quite as accurate as with the Glock, but I was very impressed with the results using the reset. Follow up shots were a breeze, including double and triple taps, and full mag rapid fire.
There were a few times that I missed the reset, especially in the beginning, leading to inconsistent results. But with a little experience, the reset is very easy to hit. There is a positive click when you hit it, and it is dead solid consistent every time. Very precise. It soon becomes second nature, but I'm sure it will require some follow up practice to burn this into muscle memory. As much as I enjoy shooting this piece, I'm sure that will not be an issue.
Overall, I am very impressed with the 239. I am pleased with my choice of the DAK, as this is to be an EDC piece that I want to keep simple, no decocker. SA/DA might be a better choice for the range, or for shooters that are used to it and prefer it. I am VERY excited to continue practicing with the DAK reset, as I feel it is one of the finest characteristics of this weapon. I also LOVE the looks of this pistol, and can't get enough of the Sig quality and craftsmanship. (So much so that I just ordered a Milt Sparks VM2 w/ shark trim to tote it around in!) I would appreciate any comments or experiences from other owners, and I will post a follow up after my next range session.
http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbull...423-sig-porn-p239-sas-gen-1-dak-two-tone.html
I ended up putting 250+ rounds down range, consisting of 100 WWB FMJ, 100 Federal Champion FMJ, 50 American Eagle FMJ, and 16 Remington Golden Saber 147gr BJHP.
Function:
In a word: FLAWLESS. 100% silky smooth Sig perfection. Everything fed perfectly, controls were perfect, slide worked like it was on ball bearings. Couldn't have been any better.
Ergonomics:
Very good. Extremely comfortable grip angle and girth. Controls right where they should be. Maybe a little top heavy, and the bore axis is a bit high.
Recoil:
Surprisingly sharp for 9mm. Most likely due to the high bore axis. It was controllable, but actually felt similar to my G30sf as far as overall recoil. Follow up shots were not an issue, but definitely could be better with a more stable platform. Still a very comfortable gun to shoot due to the fantastic ergonomics - I could shoot this thing all day and not get tired of it.
Sights:
This piece comes with a SigLite front tritium sight and standard rear sight. Overall, not bad. Did not shoot in low light, so can't really say much about the SigLite other than it seemed to work good in dry fire drills around the house. I would prefer a bit larger sights (big dots?)and may go that route in the future.
Accuracy / Trigger:
Here's where it gets a bit interesting. Obviously according to the thread title we are dealing with the DAK trigger here. Let me first say that the DAK is extremely smooth, relatively light and very pleasant to shoot. However, there is a bit of a learning curve.
Any bad shooting habits will be multiplied by this trigger, and I have a few that it definitelty brought out. My accuracy left MUCH to be desired in the first 100 rounds or so. Everything was COM at combat distances, but the groups were very loose. Definitely a bad day for any BG that popped up, but still disappointing with a firearm I am so obviously excited about.
I set the Sig down for a while and put 100 rounds through my G30sf. Good grief, I was knocking the x ring out of everything with the Glock. SO much better with that trigger. Not to be deterred, I went back to the 239 and gave it another shot.
This time, I concentrated on using the short reset that the DAK provides on follow up shots. Shot one would be the long DAK pull, with the rest of the mag using the reset. Now I started to see some results. The short reset on the DAK is a SUPER short pull with an extremely crisp break, which really reminds me of my Glock trigger. I was still not quite as accurate as with the Glock, but I was very impressed with the results using the reset. Follow up shots were a breeze, including double and triple taps, and full mag rapid fire.
There were a few times that I missed the reset, especially in the beginning, leading to inconsistent results. But with a little experience, the reset is very easy to hit. There is a positive click when you hit it, and it is dead solid consistent every time. Very precise. It soon becomes second nature, but I'm sure it will require some follow up practice to burn this into muscle memory. As much as I enjoy shooting this piece, I'm sure that will not be an issue.
Overall, I am very impressed with the 239. I am pleased with my choice of the DAK, as this is to be an EDC piece that I want to keep simple, no decocker. SA/DA might be a better choice for the range, or for shooters that are used to it and prefer it. I am VERY excited to continue practicing with the DAK reset, as I feel it is one of the finest characteristics of this weapon. I also LOVE the looks of this pistol, and can't get enough of the Sig quality and craftsmanship. (So much so that I just ordered a Milt Sparks VM2 w/ shark trim to tote it around in!) I would appreciate any comments or experiences from other owners, and I will post a follow up after my next range session.
