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I bought a Sig P938 Extreme after reading about all of the problems owners had been having because I figured Sig had all the kinks out by now. I read where they wouldn't fire anything but 124 grain and the grip screws would fall out and that the gun would not eject the last round in the magazine. My 938 was made in Jan 2013 and I took it to the range yesterday with fingers crossed. I took it out of the case and did not break it down to clean and lube it. I shot 2 different brands of 115 grain ammo which is not supposed to work at all and never had one problem. The grip screws were still tight and not about to fall out when I finished shooting as had been previously reported. I love this little 9mm and it is now my EDC. The only thing that I did find that still is a small problem is that the 6 round mag is a pita to load. This is my 4th Sig and I had faith they would get the bugs out. If you want a small well made gun for carry this is a Rolex compared to others when it comes to fit and finish and great performance with night sights that you can actually use.
 

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The latest issue of "Gun Tests" magazine just tested the 938 and gave it a big fat "F" for all the problems they had with it. They had liked an earlier gun that they tested when it first came out and liked it, but failed this one with a myriad of problems. All of the testers said they wouldn't carry the gun for self defense it was so unreliable. One of the guys at our gun range bought one because he loved the size and feel, kept it about 2 weeks, sold it and bought a new XDs for the same reasons.
 

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So you have a pistol that has a reputation for reliability problems, went to the range and tried two different loads in the same 115gr bullet weight, declared it functional, and now it's your EDC? You may want to tap the brakes a little before you are positive it's reliable, especially in a 1911 platform with tight tolerances and timing. Personally, I wouldn't consider it reliable and ready for carry until I have a minimum of 250 trouble free rounds of JHP carry ammo downrange. 9mm ball fmj ammo may feed very reliably, but you should really make sure that defensively ammo functions flawlessly before you decide to carry it as your EDC.
 
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I feel that most small pistol problems are owner and ammo related.
I agree with you. The small pistols are not idiot proof. Junk ammo and a limp wrist cause a lot of the problems. I have read where a lot of people sent them back only for Sig to not find any problem with their pistol.
 

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Enjoy it!! My wife has one and she has put at least 500 rounds through it in the last couple weekends and has not had a single hiccup, 115 grain fmj to 124 JHP, factory ammo to reloads, she loves the thing.
 

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Enjoy it!! My wife has one and she has put at least 500 rounds through it in the last couple weekends and has not had a single hiccup, 115 grain fmj to 124 JHP, factory ammo to reloads, she loves the thing.
I'm in this same camp. I have an Extreme and have to say it's everything I hoped it would be, in a small, accurate, easy to carry handgun. Definately a winner. The only downer is that, as others have mentioned, loading those magazines to full capacity will test your thumbs! My solution was to use my UpLula!
 

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She has the 938 Blackout and the 238 Pearl and loves them both, I really like them too, some times I try to talk her into taking my shield for the 938 but no dice.
 

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So you have a pistol that has a reputation for reliability problems, went to the range and tried two different loads in the same 115gr bullet weight, declared it functional, and now it's your EDC? You may want to tap the brakes a little before you are positive it's reliable, especially in a 1911 platform with tight tolerances and timing. Personally, I wouldn't consider it reliable and ready for carry until I have a minimum of 250 trouble free rounds of JHP carry ammo downrange. 9mm ball fmj ammo may feed very reliably, but you should really make sure that defensively ammo functions flawlessly before you decide to carry it as your EDC.
I have been shooting most all my 62 years and have never heard of breaking in a gun before it will work until getting on the gun forums and reading what the self proclaimed gun experts have decided is correct. Now if you got a cheap gun such as a KelTec you might should worry. If a gun can't be counted on out of the box it is pretty much cheap junk to start with. Then again there are a lot of people that can never figure out how the small autos shoot and I guess it would take them 250 rounds for someone to explain limp wrist. I really find it amusing to watch the self proclaimed experts" what if" each other to death on the web gun forums.
 

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Got the Extreme less than a month after it hit the market and had all of the problems mentioned, and more. It didn't matter which experienced shooter shot the gun. Tried it with 6 different kinds of ammo. It was just never reliable enough to carry. I'm waiting for a replacement grip screw to come in the mail now; after that it will be traded or sold. I sure wish it ran as good as my P238, but it just doesn't.

Glad to hear you had better luck than I did. Next time, I'll wait until a new model has been out a while longer before buying.
 

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I want a "nightmare" edition of this pistol so bad I can taste it ;)

I'm not the doom and gloom type either. I purchased a p226 in Jan and when I got it home the mag release popped out. There was some dmg to the frame I hadn't noticed (it was a new in box, but the date was from 2011).

I called sig and they replaced it.

So I'm not overly concerned that there is a major design flaw, rather they are having some QC issues with a new gun. Of course I'm also the guy that works on his own guns so I have fixed some issues in the past.

So if you have a nightmare p938 and don't wanna "risk it" let me know ;)


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My P938 Nightmare has been flawless so far... about 200 rounds. More testing to be conclusive, but so far... so good.

BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I view these mini pistols bordering closer to "hobbyist novelty" than to serious defense pistol. They would be my last choice of pistol to have in-hand, if I found myself facing serious evil threat! They are difficult to shoot well, have very low capacity, and are more likely to have functional issues - as compared to a standard defense pistol.

As easy as it is to carry a larger, standard defense pistol CCW, these mini guns are "back-up" in my view. It would be a rare occasion where one of these mini nines would be my primary defense pistol. Though I have a P938 and a PM9, I rarely rely solely on either of them.

I think they can be handy to have around, but I sure don't like relying on them as a primary pistol.
 
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I lubed my Rosewood then put through 275 rounds of reloads and five rounds each o five popular defensive loads. I'd say they worked out the kinks.
 

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If you lived in Louisiana as I do you would not say it is easy to carry a larger weapon. I would love to carry my Ultra Carry II everywhere, but that is not feasible in the south, especially if you don't want to look like a slop with your shirt tail out.
 

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With a life long career as a photographer who has photographed hundreds of models and thousands of portrait clients, I offer this viewpoint.

Don't you guys in Louisanna wear jeans? Do you really always tuck your shirts into jeans???

Modern day casual dress with nice clothing and shirt tail out is absolutely cool looking, as long as you don't dress and/or look like a slob or a bum and under those circumstances, and in that case, merely tucking your shirt into your pants isn't going to help the look any.... you'll just look like a slob or a bum with your shirt tucked in.

There's nothing sloppy looking about a nice tropical cut shirt (solid color or patterned), untucked, with a nice pair of jeans... what's sloppy looking about that??? Too sloppy to go to Home Depot on a Saturday? (Makes concealed carry of a Glock 19 or similar size a piece of cake!)

And do you never go out with a good quality weight t-shirt and a pair or shorts or jeans? Do you tuck the t-shirt in as well???

Tucked in shirts are still perfectly suitable when wearing suits (as long as the shirt isn't tucked in tooo tightly) and formal stuff... and for out of fashion geeks when informally dressed.

If you MUST tuck shirt tails in, at least pull them out enough to drape over your beltline somewhat... nothing looks dorkier than a tightly tucked in shirt... especially if our gut is anything other than perfectly flat.

Casual dress with nice clothing is perfectly sophisticated with untucked shirts... and makes concealed carry oh-so-easy!

Open a GQ magazine once in a while.

Ok... Sorry for the rant, but there it is. Now that my fashion rant is off my chest, it is certainly your right to dress however the heck you think looks good, even if it is out of fashion and means you can't carry anything more than a mouse gun.
 
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