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So I was starting to get comfortable carrying having carried to a college campus and the county fair and some smaller places and on the way home from the fair I get stopped. :gah: I was kinda freaking out a little.

So the officer comes up and asks how I'm doing I answer and return the question he says fine and says can I see your liscense? I say "yes but I need to tell you that I have my Utah state concealed firearm permit and I do have a fire arm with me its on my right hip."

He the asked me to step out of the car and asks where the gun is and if he can take it. I let him and he said he would hold on to it for the duration of the stop. By then anoter LEO stops and starts talking to me asked if I had my permit and I said yes and asked if he would like to see it he said no he trusted me. :hand10:

Turns out they were stopping about everyone for anything because they had a lot of problems during the fair last year. I find out as we are talking that the second LEO is in my church ward ad lives very close to me. :wave: He also told me that they are in my culdasac often and I say ya thats our favorite neighbor jokingly. :rolleyes:

It went well I just had a turn signal out. The first officer placed my firearm in the trunk just to be safe and I was on my way with a warning.

So how did I do? Sorry its a little long.
 

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Sounds to me like Ya done good.
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I'd say that you did very well, but it is absolutely :bs2: that he had to put your firearm in the trunk...why?

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This kind of crap stirs my feelings of LEO common sense. There is absolutely no need put the gun in the trunk AFTER clearing you and deciding that you would not get a ticket nor were you any kind of threat. The one cop is in your church and nieghborhood? I hope he doesn't need your immediate assistance when your gun is locked in your trunk.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Personally I think it would have went a lot better and quicker had you not informed them of your carry status. Not required so why volunteer the info so they can take three times longer to give you the turn signal warning?
 

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You done good!

I don't know if it's the law in your state to present and announce, but it's always a good idea. It's better the officer know up front that you're heeled than to accidentally find it during a pat down. Police officers don't like surprises like that, and you might end up wearing chrome bracelets for a while until the officers get everything straightened out.

I've been stopped twice while carrying - once in NC and once in SC. In NC, I had the gun on the dashboard, as prescribed by their law for non-CWP holders. The officer reached in and took my gun, informing me he would hold it for the duration of the stop. When he was finished, he put it back on the dash and I was on my way. The stop in SC was even easier. I presented my CWP along with my driver's license and informed the officer I was carrying - as prescribed by SC law. He simply said, "Don't put your hands near it." That was that.

I'm sure some posters will tell you to not inform, even if it's the law. Sorta a "what they don't know won't hurt anyone" thing. That can get you handcuffed, detained, possibly arrested, and may even result in you losing your carry permit. Think about it from the LEO's point of view. You're an unknown. More police are killed and injured at domestic calls and traffic stops than any other situation. They're a little uptight when walking up to a car. Help'em out.
 

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I'd say that you did very well, but it is absolutely :bs2: that he had to put your firearm in the trunk...why?

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This kind of crap stirs my feelings of LEO common sense. There is absolutely no need put the gun in the trunk AFTER clearing you and deciding that you would not get a ticket nor were you any kind of threat. The one cop is in your church and nieghborhood? I hope he doesn't need your immediate assistance when your gun is locked in your trunk.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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OK, I'm done...:blink:
I see your point but I'm just glad it went the way it did and I was only a few blocks from home so no big deal. He did say that if I wanted to get it out down the road or after he left that was fine.
 

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Personally I think it would have went a lot better and quicker had you not informed them of your carry status. Not required so why volunteer the info so they can take three times longer to give you the turn signal warning?
I OC in the car and if stopped I'd rather them know before I go reach for my wallet and they see the gun. I don't want surprises. Even if I'm concealing, I'd rather them know that there is a gun there in case they do see it while I'm reaching for my wallet. It could be the difference between a gun in my face and a very bad stop and a good stop.
 

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Personally I think it would have went a lot better and quicker had you not informed them of your carry status. Not required so why volunteer the info so they can take three times longer to give you the turn signal warning?
I was in no hurry and I think that most LEO around here appreciate you saying something as a sign of respect. Also my CC instructor told us to always disclose (former LEO) to prevent anything happening and usually get out of a ticket.
 

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I'm sure some posters will tell you to not inform, even if it's the law. Sorta a "what they don't know won't hurt anyone" thing. That can get you handcuffed, detained, possibly arrested, and may even result in you losing your carry permit. Think about it from the LEO's point of view. You're an unknown. More police are killed and injured at domestic calls and traffic stops than any other situation. They're a little uptight when walking up to a car. Help'em out.
In Ohio, your CHL is tied to your drivers license and tags. If you get pulled over and they run your plate, they already know you have the CHL. If you fail to inform, your toast.
 

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The part about them just stopping cars at will because they had trouble at the fair bothers me,I hope they actually have PC to stop or they are violating peoples rights,I been stopped a couple times since getting my CHL and have never been disarmed.IMHO if somebody is a threat they're not gonna tell you they have a gun in the first place
 

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I think you handled yourself exactly in the correct manner.

I also tend to agree with retsupt99 in regards to tossing your gun in the trunk.

I will say, it is certainly within their right to disarm you and do whatever they feel they need to do to remain safe... but I agree with ret! Uncalled for as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Sounds like a successful encounter to me.

My pickup broke down one night in Hartford and a cop came up and asked me if I needed help. I said a tow truck was on the way, and by the way, I'm a permit holder carrying a pistol. He shrugged and then said he'd wait with me till the tow truck showed. Very nice guy.
 

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I would hope to not be asked to disarm. It opens the door for an accidental discharge. If they unholster or if I would have to. Especially in a tuckable hoslter it would be very inconveinent to put back... seems a little odd to me
 

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An inoperative turn signal is probable cause to pull over a driver; I have no problem with that. I, too would have announced my carry status and allowed the officer to take control of the weapon if he desired. But, I would have retrieved it from the trunk immediately, and right in front of them if need be, once I was cleared to be on my way.
 

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An inoperative turn signal is probable cause to pull over a driver; I have no problem with that. I, too would have announced my carry status and allowed the officer to take control of the weapon if he desired. But, I would have retrieved it from the trunk immediately, and right in front of them if need be, once I was cleared to be on my way.
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I was in no hurry and I think that most LEO around here appreciate you saying something as a sign of respect. Also my CC instructor told us to always disclose (former LEO) to prevent anything happening and usually get out of a ticket
I guess I'm just too used to living out here in the sticks. I know nearly all the local LEO within 100 miles of where I live and can tell you that not one of them much cares if you have a gun or not. It's just normal here for nearly every vehicle to have some form of firearm in it at any given time.
 

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Utah Gets It

Good encounter I'd say. Our LEOs here in Colo may take your gun during a contact but they must return it at the conclusion of the stop; I have no problem w/that.

Isn't it good to live in a state that gets it like Utah?

If Colo gets messed up, & it's getting to that point, I might just move there or Texas.
 

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I'd say that you did very well, but it is absolutely :bs2: that he had to put your firearm in the trunk...why?

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This kind of crap stirs my feelings of LEO common sense. There is absolutely no need put the gun in the trunk AFTER clearing you and deciding that you would not get a ticket nor were you any kind of threat. The one cop is in your church and nieghborhood? I hope he doesn't need your immediate assistance when your gun is locked in your trunk.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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OK, I'm done...:blink:
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I agree with you a 100% ...Cant understand why will they do that but...No comments...
 
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