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This past weekend, one of my brother-in-laws called me to discuss handguns and what pistol he should purchase. When I asked him why he wanted to purchase a pistol, he stated that he thought there would be a societal breakdown in California within the year. This is a person who I do not think is a good candidate for owning a pistol (my wife feels the same way).

My wife and I discussed this situation at length. When I said that I thought this seemed somewhat unlikely, she responded that she did not. With the continued shutdown of the electrical grid in California whenever there is a high wind/low humidity event, her thinking is that there may be severe societal disruption should the power company be unable to restore power in a timely manner. I'm not an expert in electrical service, but certainly if that happened, the consequences could be serious. As she pointed out, if there is no power, and no way for a trucker to get fuel, I could see where truckers might be reluctant to make deliveries in California for fear of getting stuck. This could lead to a snowball effect of bad consequences.

Every day I hear about another bad event taking place in California I thank my stars we no longer live there.
 

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Its really sad to watch. I have family in CA and my parents lived there for years when my father worked as an engineer for Lockheed-Martin in the 50s. Its not a place my parents would recognize. I can't imagine they would tolerate the current political climate that's engulfed the state.

I've enjoyed visiting San Diego and southern CA for brief periods.
 

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The best thing you can do for someone that you do not think is a good candidate for owning a pistol is to suggest that he go to a gun range that has instructors and rental guns and get lessons and try various guns that they feel will work for him.

The reason I say that is that my one son decided (with his wife's consent because she has been avidly anti gun) that they NEED a gun for home protection. Their formerly nice upper middle class semi rural area has become dangerous, with crime at an unbelievably high level now.

We suggested a 20 ga. shotgun. He went to a range and got an 80 minute private lesson in gun safety and handling and then got to shoot 30 slugs from a 20 ga. He immediately felt it was all wrong in every way and the instructor agreed. Then I suggested a Shield 380EZ as the most user friendly and easiest to use that is not a .22, and he has another appointment next week at the same range for more private instruction and to try that gun. If it works for him he will follow up with an appointment for his wife. They MIGHT be able to step up to a 9mm. Maybe.

If he lived closer I could give him and his wife instructions, using our selection of various guns, but all in all this is the best way to go about it - for us and for them. They may find out on their own that no gun will work for them due to noise, recoil, etc. etc. He has been told that if he gets any kind of gun it will require plenty of practice to become proficient enough to be able to use it for home self defense. They have the funds for private instruction and rentals, so no problem in that regard.

In other words: Get yourself out of the picture!
 

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This is going to be my last comment because I think I'm already pushing the rule but California may not be mentioned in the bible but societal breakdown is.
Yep...it has happened around the world.
 

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If I was crazy enough to live in CA, I would ask Hickok45 to loan me his:

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Once Kalifornia goes bankrupt (and it is coming) and they don't get a bailout, things will go downhill rapidly. Most cities of any size (especially those being run into the ground by Dems) are experiencing a societal recession. As they absorb more and more deadbeats who do not contribute positively to society, the tax base decreases while entitlement increases, and society recedes.

Those who can get out of that trainwreck of a state should do so ASAP.
 

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