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Someone's trying to sell the an old 1911

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A older guy at work was talking to my boss as I walked up to
them the other day and my boss pointing at me says "he may
buy it".
Turns out he's selling an old Colt 1911 to fund a new camera purchase.
We both have know this guy for years and he's a great guy and
real straight shooter so when he tells me it in great condition
and he's checked the numbers on it and its a target model
from the 1940s I think he's telling me the truth.

He said he bought it a long time ago from an old friend of his
just to have a gun in the house and never even fired it himself.
I'm not a big fan of the 1911s but if I find I don't like it I can
sell it to my brother who loves them.
Does anybody have an idea what a Colt target model 1911
from the 1940s is worth?
He's asking $500.00 for it.
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Worth more than the $500 asking price I'm sure.
http://www.model1911a1.com/
If it was decently well taken care of then there is an extremely high probability that it's worth far more that $500.
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No way. Don't waste your money.

If you send me his name and address I talk to him about this rip-off.

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Thanks guys
I though it was worth the money but I don't know a lot
about the 1911s (I'm more of a Glock guy)
The guy thats selling it is bringing it for me to look at
on Tuesday and if it looks like he said it does I'll buy it
and post some photos in an update.
Thanks again
It doesn't, matter if it's a Colt it's worth $500, As long as it isn't a complete pile of rusty parts your a fool if you don't buy it for that. WWII era Colt's sell routinely for $700 to $1500 depending on condition, If it is a frankengun from the war and been rebuilt a half dozen times it will easily get you $500-$900.
A older guy at work was talking to my boss as I walked up to
them the other day and my boss pointing at me says "he may
buy it".
Turns out he's selling an old Colt 1911 to fund a new camera purchase.
We both have know this guy for years and he's a great guy and
real straight shooter so when he tells me it in great condition
and he's checked the numbers on it and its a target model
from the 1940s I think he's telling me the truth.

He said he bought it a long time ago from an old friend of his
just to have a gun in the house and never even fired it himself.
I'm not a big fan of the 1911s but if I find I don't like it I can
sell it to my brother who loves them.Does anybody have an idea what a Colt target model 1911 from the 1940s is worth?
He's asking $500.00 for it.
It would help to know what pistol it is exactly. Is it actually a M1911/M1911A1 built for the AMU (Army Marksmanship Unit)? Or is it a National Match Government Model, or maybe a Super Match .38? "1911" is such a generic term it doesn't tell us anything. It could be original and correct worth multiple thousands or a mixmaster worth a few hundred. The Colt Match pistols were terminated in 1942 and a new series began in 1957, so it would really be beneficial to know what it is. :wink:
It would help to know what pistol it is exactly. Is it actually a M1911/M1911A1 built for the AMU (Army Marksmanship Unit)? Or is it a National Match Government Model, or maybe a Super Match .38? "1911" is such a generic term it doesn't tell us anything. It could be original and correct worth multiple thousands or a mixmaster worth a few hundred. The Colt Match pistols were terminated in 1942 and a new series began in 1957, so it would really be beneficial to know what it is. :wink:
I understand the problem but its all the info I have on it now
I'll know more tomorrow and be able to show photos:smile:
Thanks for the input and I,ll post again tomorrow
It doesn't, matter if it's a Colt it's worth $500, As long as it isn't a complete pile of rusty parts your a fool if you don't buy it for that. WWII era Colt's sell routinely for $700 to $1500 depending on condition, If it is a frankengun from the war and been rebuilt a half dozen times it will easily get you $500-$900.
Agreed.

If such a gift horse fell into my lap I'd be at the bank getting cash, as rather than thinking to look over a gift horse in the mouth.

$500 is nothing for a 1911 in general muchless one that is WWII era vintage.

- Janq
Thanks guys
I though it was worth the money but I don't know a lot
about the 1911s (I'm more of a Glock guy)
The guy thats selling it is bringing it for me to look at
on Tuesday and if it looks like he said it does I'll buy it
and post some photos in an update.
Thanks again


I'd grab a decent 1911 for $500 in heartbeat.
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Agreed.

If such a gift horse fell into my lap I'd be at the bank getting cash, as rather than thinking to look over a gift horse in the mouth.

$500 is nothing for a 1911 in general muchless one that is WWII era vintage.

- Janq
It may or may not be a gift horse. :wink:
Is it actually a National Match or AMU, or a pistol someone changed the sights on and ruined the actual value? The isn't a "Colt target model 1911", so it will be interesting to see what he has exactly.
I understand the problem but its all the info I have on it now
I'll know more tomorrow and be able to show photos:smile:
Thanks for the input and I,ll post again tomorrow
Great, pictures are good, lotsa pictures are better. :wink:
Even if it needs restored it should be worth more than that. If it's in excellent condition, you had better pick it up for that kind of money.
Did you get any pictures?
[sarcasm]

No way. Don't waste your money.

If you send me his name and address I talk to him about this rip-off.

[/sarcasm]

:image035:
I know, right? I'll take it off his hands for $500
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OK
I decided to let my brother have/buy it for two reasons.
One,I'm not that much of a 1911 guy and he will get more fun out
of it than me.
Two, money is tight for me right now (auto insurance due) and
bills come first.
So heres the deal ,the gun has some things I would like to ask you guys about.

There is a checkering on the front strap that does not look factory
to me(see photos)

The frame serial # starts with 731 but the barrel # starts with
NM 779and the barrel bushing #starts with 728 with an M on one side and an N on the other.

That means they are National Mach parts right?

The trigger looks like some type of alloy with a screw hole in the front
of it so I guess it has a trigger stop.

Its also got a shiny blued finish and target sights that I don't think are factory

Any input you have would be welcome
Thank again.

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There is a checkering on the front strap that does not look factory
It isn't factory. That is a heavily buffed and blued M1911A1. What is the serial number? It may or may not be a Colt.

The frame serial # starts with 731 but the barrel # starts with
NM 779and the barrel bushing #starts with 728 with an M on one side and an N on the other.

That means they are National Mach parts right?
Can you get better pictures? They may or may not be "real" National Match parts, and better pictures of the rear sight if you can please.


The trigger looks like some type of alloy with a screw hole in the frontof it so I guess it has a trigger stop.
Correct, and not factory.

Its also got a shiny blued finish and target sights that I don't think are factory
Correct again.

Someone made it into a target pistol, it was not built that way originally, it was not done by the military either, they would have Parkerized it. I think you did right by passing on it.
It isn't factory. That is a heavily buffed and blued M1911A1. What is the serial number? It may or may not be a Colt.

Can you get better pictures? They may or may not be "real" National Match parts, and better pictures of the rear sight if you can please.


Correct, and not factory.

Correct again.

Someone made it into a target pistol, it was not built that way originally, it was not done by the military either, they would have Parkerized it. I think you did right by passing on it.
Thanks for the info
It is a Colt frame with M1911A1 US Army on it and slide with Colt stamped into the slide and it has a very tight and smooth frame to slide fit so I think it may shoot very straight and be a nice shooting gun for my brother at any rate.
Sorry about the bad photos but thats as good as his camera will do.

I almost forgot , the rear sight has the word Micro
stamped on it
Thanks for the info
It is a Colt frame with M1911A1 US Army on it and slide with Colt stamped into the slide and it has a very tight and smooth frame to slide fit so I think it may shoot very straight and be a nice shooting gun for my brother at any rate.
Sorry about the bad photos but thats as good as his camera will do.

I almost forgot , the rear sight has the word Micro
stamped on it
I would suggest to your brother that he shoot it sparingly, the '41 Colts were only spot heat treated. :wink:
I would suggest to your brother that he shoot it sparingly, the '41 Colts were only spot heat treated. :wink:
Spot heat treated?:scruntiny:
I've never heard that term.
I'll tell him and thanks again for your help.
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