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This post is for my buddy that has and CC's an XD and has some slight issues with it, so I told him I would post the questions on here to get what your experance's are and what you changed if anything to fix the problem's.

First thing is he is having problems with the slide not locking back when the gun is empty. I would not like this in a defesive situation and having to deal with the slide too.

Can you change magazines or the gut's of the mag's he has to allow the slide to lock back when empty. What do you guy's do?

Second, The slide is prone to surface rusting according to him after wearing for a week or so. He is down in Florida so sweating is a given. He said his glock never did this but the XD is bad about it.

(I told him that a good holster would fix that problem) he is using the one that can with the XD package deal. Gun, holster, and two extra mags I think it was. But the holster is junk if you ask me.

Then changing the main spring do you all use the stock 17# the 19# or the HD 21# spring and why? also will this help slide lock by changing this?

Anyway what are your experances with the XD and what have you done to fix any problems listed or problems that you have had that are not listed?

Thank's, I am a 1911 guy so I am no help to him!

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As for locking back try changing the mag springs with the wolfe +10's

Rusting the way around that is to clean it really really well then oil it and let it soak in then oil again..

The wax it with Car wax really heavy and really good Holster doesnt seem to matter i use leather with mine and it rusts but i thought they got the problem fixed.

if you search the Xd has been discussed quite a bit
 

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Is he using factory mags? If so, Springfield needs to be contacted. It's likely a simple fix but Springfield is pretty good about warranty.

The rust issue is heavily covered on the XD forum (www.hs2000talk.com). It's been a problem for some. Many Duracoat their XD's.

I have two XD's and zero problems with either.
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Yea he is using the stock mag's that came with the gun.

Are there other mags out there he can try for the XD?

The duracoat sounds good. Who would do that for the XD?


Also, thanks Bud, I will have him check into the Wolff +10's. I also did a search but 99% of it seems to be basicly the same ?'s with little info on his specific problems.

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I have read about sporadic problems with the factory XD mags not locking the slide back. I'd have him contact SA and he should be able to get those mags replaced via warranty. As far as rusting on the slide, I'm guessing he has the blued finish. I have heard of rusting problems with the blued slide and the best fix I have heard about is the duracoat finish. Check AJAMES on the hs2000 website listed in this thread. He does a lot of buisness with his duracoating and has had very good results.

I have the Bi-Tone version of the XD and have personally had no problems with these issues. I received 3 mags when I bought my XD and they all cycle fine. The slide is the stainless finish so I also have not had a problem with the rusting. Contact with SA will most likely take care of at least the mag issue. They may have a fix for the rusting but I would probably still look into re-coating to make it as tough as possible.
 

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You can also send the gun back to Springfield and they will refinish it not sure how it holds up i don't visit the xd forums anymore to see if it holds up

Springfield will refinish it under the warranty
 

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TiCarry,
AJames at the XD forum has a good reputation. I have a local guy do anything I need Duracoated. He recently did his own XD and it looks super.
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Do not even bother with nonfactory XD mags. They cost as much or more and are worse in quality and function.

Call Springfield. It's probably a simple fix at the factory. I have two XD40s that see pretty good use (one is my carry gun) and have never experienced such problems. This is a problem that's not unique to the XD or even Springfield Armory either. It just happens sometimes.

I've heard of people who do get the XDs with problems receive impressive service and it usually gets fixed the first time.
 

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slide lock in a gun fight

if your slide locks back in a gun fight your screwed. you should do a speed load if there is a lull in the action. if you run your gun dry you will be dead. you should always have one in the chamber. revolver is a different story.
 

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if your slide locks back in a gun fight your screwed. you should do a speed load if there is a lull in the action. if you run your gun dry you will be dead. you should always have one in the chamber. revolver is a different story.
I am not following you! When the gun is empty you want the slide to lock back to change out the mag as quick as possible. Are you talking about a malfunction while shooting with the sldie locking back? if so that is not a concern with my friends XD.

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cnc_marine said:
if your slide locks back in a gun fight your screwed. you should do a speed load if there is a lull in the action. if you run your gun dry you will be dead. you should always have one in the chamber. revolver is a different story.
Actually, you should do a tactical reload, or reload with retention if there is a lull in the action.
I'm not familiar with the term "speed load". What are you referring to?
 

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There are a couple of schools of thought on reloading that relate to gunfighting. One is speed reload when the gun runs dry, the other is reload when you can, not when you have to.

A speed reload is dropping the mag from the gun with a fresh mag on the way to the mag well. It can be done with a partially loaded mag or when the slide locks back.

Many see the slide lock as a death sentence and something that can and should be prevented. After many, many training courses, including many FOF scenarios, I am convinced that if we can reload before running dry, that's good. But we won't always have such control of a gunfight that we can reload before we run dry.

Certainly running a gun dry in a gunfight is not desireable. But in a gunfight we won't be counting rounds; we may not even be conscious of how much we've actually shot, so unless the situation allows time and opportunity, we're likely going to shoot to slide lock. The only solution then is to speed reload from slide lock.

As civilians, it is highly unlikely that we will have time or opportunity to reload in a gunfight. It is much more likely that we will finsh the gunfight one way or the other with the rounds in the gun. There are few, few incidents where a civilian had an opportunity to "top off" or reload his gun.
 

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Well said, Tangle.
There are no absolutes.
 

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OD said:
Well said, Tangle.
There are no absolutes.
Absolutely! :tongue:
 

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Cute. :wink:
 

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I should add: you are 100% right about no absolutes. I was very resistant to accepting that for quite a while.
 

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Tangle said:
I should add: you are 100% right about no absolutes. I was very resistant to accepting that for quite a while.
There are too absolutes, just not in this context!

But I concur. I think Hollywood makes reloading seem far more common and practical than it really is.

Because everyone knows that the fight magically fades into slow motion around you the instant you hit that magazine release...
 

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I am not sure how you guys got off the beaten path but cnc_marine was IMO off topic to what my questions were in the first place.

Nowhere in my post do I ask this question!

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It's thread drift... to be honest I've completely forgotten what we were talking about! I keed I keed!

I stand by what I originally said. Let Springfield try to fix it. The XD should run like a top and I bet his will after one trip. He got the 1 in 1000 that had a problem.

I personally have yet to experience the rust issue so I didn't comment on it as it was already addressed.
 

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Thant's cool Euc, I am not pointing you out or anything, cnc_marine went into left field and I didn't understand what he was saying regarding the post. I am guessing that he misunderstood or something and it took off from there. No big deal, I think I have got enough info to give him.

Please proceed with the debate.

Ti.
 
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