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Anyone see anything on this yet? Seems Stag is looking to modify their designs to keep them legal and stay in CT...
Connecticut gunmaker looking to modify banned rifle - WFSB 3 Connecticut

Connecticut gunmaker looking to modify banned rifle


Posted: Apr 29, 2013 8:04 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 29, 2013 8:10 PM EDT
By Susan Raff - email



NEW BRITAIN, CT (WFSB) -
One Connecticut gun maker said it would move out of the state if lawmakers expanded the ban on assault weapons, but now that same company is taking a look at modifying the AR-15.

Before some of the toughest gun laws in the country were passed, officials with the Stag Arms in New Britain said further modifications to the AR-15 would make it impossible to sell in Connecticut.

Eyewitness News has learned that the company is working on making a modified assault weapon to fit the ban.

"We are carefully looking at the new law and there are some things we interpret to be legal," said Stag Arms owner Mark Malkowski. "We have gotten a lot of feedback from our customers and they have given us ideas for changes."


Malkowski said the company is putting together a prototype, which they plan to show the weapons unit at the state police on Friday.

Officials with Stag Arms sells AR-15s, the only product it produces, all over the United States and to other countries, but less than 5 percent of its sales are made in Connecticut.

Gov. Dannel P. Malloy supported the ban, but did met with the gun manufacturers because he does not want them to leave, especially since the industry creates hundreds of jobs.

"It says gun companies will do anything to sell guns," Malloy said when recently asked about the topic. "I can't prejudge something that I haven't seen or analyze. People make things to sell them."

As for leaving Connecticut, officials with Stag Arms said it is still an option. Last week, Malkowski said he met with the governor of Texas and next week, the governor of Kansas.

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I know it has to be hard to move a company. You have local suppliers and a trained workforce. But, if the locality that you do business from makes it clear that they don't want you by making your product illegal, I would think it behooves them to get out. Modifying your product to appease the antis is probably not a very prudent business decision.
 

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Yeah I don't know what they're trying to accomplish. The anti's are going to keep pushing for more restrictions. By modifying the design to meet the anti's current requirements, they're only postponing the innevitable. They'll just push for more restrictions that ban your modification next time. Seems to be a waste of time and money to me.
 

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It didn't work so well for Dicks sporting goods. I would think R & D and re-tooling could be a pretty expensive endeavor to cave to an anti state and to alienate your customers. Hopefully they see the light and move to Kansas!
 

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Yeah I don't know what they're trying to accomplish. The anti's are going to keep pushing for more restrictions. By modifying the design to meet the anti's current requirements, they're only postponing the innevitable. They'll just push for more restrictions that ban your modification next time. Seems to be a waste of time and money to me.
Yup. They may find re-tooling, producing a firearm that the citizens of free states are not interested in, and then finding that their modifications are banned on the next go-around was an expensive tactic.
 

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Now, I could see myself being caught off-guard when CO wanted to ban firearms, and I would hastily leave. Sorry Magpul, you guys got shafted. But in CT? ...You had to see that one coming. I would have packed up a long time ago. Staying and appeasing is pretty weak, Stag.
 
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I am hoping that this is a temporary change until they can arrange to move out of state. It could take a while to find a suitable location, move and re-install all of their equipment if they are truly manufacturing the firearms.
 

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I think they're fighting a losing battle, remaining in the state. It's all too likely their time, efforts and money could be wasted with just a turn of the legislature's thumbscrews, negating any investment in a new design that's CT specific. For 5% of sales, I wouldn't think that route is the one most likely to result in the greatest long-term gains.

If Stag can negotiate a hard bargain with some new destination state, I would think they'd end up better. Might even see a sales bump amongst the appreciative customer base simply due to doing the hardest thing in defiance of tyranny.
 

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When your bluff get's called you either man up and do what you said you'd do or you end up looking like a bunch of jackwagons. Apparently Stag is going the jackwagon route.

That's why it's so important to think about what you say before you say it. Making promises you don't intend to keep will ruin you. If this happens I expect Stag to go belly up in the near future.
 

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When your bluff get's called you either man up and do what you said you'd do or you end up looking like a bunch of jackwagons. Apparently Stag is going the jackwagon route.

That's why it's so important to think about what you say before you say it. Making promises you don't intend to keep will ruin you.
It also emboldens the liberty-haters and oath breakers in the legislatures, showing that the firm is willing to dance around making lemonade from lemons whenever it's dished up. Long term, that's a recipe for disaster.
 

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If Stag can negotiate a hard bargain with some new destination state, I would think they'd end up better. Might even see a sales bump amongst the appreciative customer base simply due to doing the hardest thing in defiance of tyranny.
Yup. They could negotiate tax free terms, and even tax credits (as much as I loathe that concept). Land could be donated, and abandoned factories refurbished, as states such as mine are quite hungry for new industry and our Governor is actively recruiting. As ATCtimmy said, their bluff was called, and now they knuckle under in shame. Nothing that they make was on my wish list anyway, and I can only imagine the lack of national demand for their new watered-down product line.
 

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Seems like a bad decision. Guess if this comes about I will not buy any more of their products. Too bad too they seem to make a decent rifle.
 

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So what happens when they come out with their "ban compliant" gun and then law changes to make it illegal again? The constant back and forth will hurt their wallet a lot more than moving facilities in the long run.

I say leave the liberty-haters to their "utopias" and haul arse to a state that respects freedom.
 

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I am hoping that this is a temporary change until they can arrange to move out of state. It could take a while to find a suitable location, move and re-install all of their equipment if they are truly manufacturing the firearms.
Seems like it would be hard to justify the expense of design and retooling for 5% of your business. Maybe it is, or maybe the think the retooling could be beneficial in other states if they pass similar laws. Hard to tell, but I'd like to see all of the gun manufacturers in CT high-tail it w/o every discussing it w/ the politicians.
 

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This is a real shame. I am in the market for a 20" plain jane, M16 clone, and they are one of the handful of companies that makes one. I'll have to see how this plays out to see if they will get the opportunity to have a chance at my money.
 

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Aren't there plenty of bolt action rifles with fixed stocks on the market?
 

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Seems like it would be hard to justify the expense of design and retooling for 5% of your business. Maybe it is, or maybe the think the retooling could be beneficial in other states if they pass similar laws. Hard to tell, but I'd like to see all of the gun manufacturers in CT high-tail it w/o every discussing it w/ the politicians.
What I was thinking, is that they make comestic changes that will alow them to keep producing in-state while they make their move. That way than can keep a revenue stream going. If they are manufacturing that parts and not just assembling the guns in Connecticutt, it could take 18 months to get a factory up and running. That ain't cheap. I don't know their circumstances. They could be playing into the game of complying which is a short term game.
 

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Well I'm going to email them and tell them they give in then I will never buy a product they produce ever again. Harsh but that's what we have to do. Obviously if they give in that's more fuel for the antis
 
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