I bought a Taurus PT709 this week and put 50 rounds of cheap FMJ through it today and I love it. I bought it for cc, so small, thin, light, simple, and close range accuracy were important. I consistently hit a paint can from 16 yards, so that meets my defensive accuracy needs. Double taps not a problem. I can slide it in a suit pant pocket with no holster (with the convenintly located thumb safety on) and you can't even tell it's there. I've got more practice ahead, but so far it is sweet and reasonably priced. I've been cc a S&W 442 38 spl revolver, so this was a departure for me. I also have a Ruger P95, so semi 9mm isn't foreign, it's just too big to carry. The thumb and trigger safeties on the PT709 make it a little more comfortable for me to cc a semi 9mm with one in the pipe.