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With the new law enacted Sept 1, not requiring notification on stop or request, any problem with still doing it. I just go under the assumption that if you run my plates and find out that I have CHL, it will/may increase your anxiety.

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Frankly, I don't care one way or the other.
 

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From what I understand the new law as,is if you do not have your CHL on you and unable to produce it on demand by an LEO they cannot suspend your license,I still believe you have a duty to inform that you have a CHL
 

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From what I understand the new law as,is if you do not have your CHL on you and unable to produce it on demand by an LEO they cannot suspend your license,I still believe you have a duty to inform that you have a CHL
That is my understanding as well.

Personally I don't care if the law flat out says "You don't have to tell a LEO you are a CHL.", I'm still going to inform them. The last thing I want is a LEO who has pulled me over with the already present level of "who am I walking up on in this car" to be surprised by anything I do or say. I want him as calm as anyone else who would deal with me that day and for both of us to do our business and both walk away the way we started.
 

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I will still prduce my CHL along with my DL any time I am pulled over. I do this for my self preservation, as well as the mind set of the LEO.
 

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My CHL actually rests in front of my TDL in my wallet. If I get pulled over My CHL will be handed to the officer along with my TDL.
 

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from my standpoint as a LEO.....my computer return on tags or DLs doesn't tell me if someone is chl or not
I'm not concerned with it especially now with the change
I'm more concerned with non-chls involved in less than upstanding behavior that I come in contact with

that being said......you won't be hurt by still showing it
 

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I will continue to inform. I will do it out of respect and professional courtesy to the current LEO's. I think the current LEO's will appreciate us being forthright. Anything I can do to make their job easier I will do.
 

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An LEO should use due caution on ALL traffic stops and other investigative stops. It would seem to be good manners to inform an LEO if one is armed. Seems rather simple to me.

BTW, I am a Texas peace officer, and I was taught a long time ago that we should inform a fellow LEO any time we are armed when being detained. (This was well before Texas had a CHL system in place.) Good manners, and prevents surprises.

I don't know what the feds taught/teach their folks, but I remember an FBI agent that we had stopped on traffic, well before the CHL system existed in Texas, politely informing us that we was a federal agent, and armed, while keeping his hands on the top of the steering wheel.

FWIW, a CHL holder informing ME that he is licensed to carry, whether armed or not, makes things run smoother for both of us. I know that a CHL holder is most likely a "good guy" in a given situation, all else being equal.
 

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Remember, travelling in Texas allows you to carry a weapon in your vehicle also, which you should inform the LEO upon being stopped that you have one also (I don't have the CCP yet), but I travel with my weapon.
 

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It makes no sense to me not to provide your CHL with your DL when asked for ID...When the LEO runs your DL (not your plates) he will immedialty know that you have a CHL. I can see no value for not providing CHL to LEO's. If it makes their job easier and makes them more comfortable. If you don't provide CHL and then they find out you have one and MAY have a gun (whats this guy hiding) they will undoubtedly be more cautious re-approaching your vehicle.
Its too easy to give it to them and let them drive the conversation.
 

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It makes no sense to me not to provide your CHL with your DL when asked for ID...When the LEO runs your DL (not your plates) he will immedialty know that you have a CHL.
It is my understanding that the computer will not pull up that information in Texas when running DL or plates. One Texas LEO has confirmed that on this subject.

On the other hand, if you are from Missouri, yoiu CHL status is stamped on your driver's license.
 

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It is my understanding that the computer will not pull up that information in Texas when running DL or plates. One Texas LEO has confirmed that on this subject.

On the other hand, if you are from Missouri, yoiu CHL status is stamped on your driver's license.
I understand it depends on the agency/their computer system

the one I use does not have this info on DL or tag returns
 

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I'm cool not having you tell me. It shows up when I run your license. But it is comforting to hear before I run your license. I am very comfortable with an armed society and people CCW'ing so I don't get my panties in a twist over it. Just don't reach for the gun, take it out, or shoot me and we are good.
 

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I will always inform the LEO just for his peace of mind.I know one time I was stopped and informed the LEO that I had a permit and was carrying and he said thats fine,if you don't grab yours I won't have to grab mine (with a grin).I said that sounds good to me.When all was said and done,I told him to be safe out there and he said you too.I got a ticket but I was speeding and not paying attention to my speed.
 

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It is my understanding that the computer will not pull up that information in Texas when running DL or plates. One Texas LEO has confirmed that on this subject.
I know everytime the DPS in Texas pulls up a DL it flashes Red Hot across the top of the screen and in a comments block it say Concealed Handgun Licenses Holder...No action required. A DPS Trooper told me the very same thing. might just be their system. Either way if a LEO asks for my ID I will present both regardless if I'm packing or not to prevent suprises and unnecassary concerns or questions.
 

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It makes no sense to me not to provide your CHL with your DL when asked for ID...When the LEO runs your DL (not your plates) he will immedialty know that you have a CHL. I can see no value for not providing CHL to LEO's. If it makes their job easier and makes them more comfortable. If you don't provide CHL and then they find out you have one and MAY have a gun (whats this guy hiding) they will undoubtedly be more cautious re-approaching your vehicle.
Its too easy to give it to them and let them drive the conversation.
They are going to "drive the conversation" anyway, as they are the one that initiated the stop.

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