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Again this year a purposel to allow constitutional carry. If this passes, Texas will be the 11th State to abide by constitutional carry under the second amendment. Would be nice if we could get over half of the States in the U.S. to pass constitutional carry and then by majority it would pass nationwide. Like I said, would be nice if it could work this way.....of course it has not passed here yet.

It may not. I remember last year many, even here at D.C., were opposed to open carry in Texas. Everyone was concerned about gun fights in the streets like we were the Okay Corral. No issues have been reported on open carry in Texas. We will see.,..

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/01/03/lawmaker-hopes-passing-constitutional-carry-bill-2/

How do you feel about Constitutional carry throughout all States?
 
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I'm in the Austin metro and I have seen open carry twice since it became effective.

Personally, I don't open carry unless I'm on my land or hunting (particularly hogs). But, I don't care if people open carry. That said, the Dallas and Houston contingents in the House and Senate will keep not support Constitutional Carry. It would be great if they would (though I still believe certain offenses should disqualify one from being able to avail oneself of the right).
 

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How do you feel about Constitutional carry throughout all States?
We already have a Constitution that affirms that right.

What we need is to annul all the laws that are in violation of that Constitution. I have no hope of that happening in my lifetime.
 

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That bill was up to pass here in OK. The House and Senate both passed it! Was awaiting the governor's signature when major revenue organizations (OKC Thunder to name one) rose a stink about the whole thing and it has since faded off into the forgotten past.

I've got a ccl so this doesn't deny me carrying, but how a basketball team can have any say over a bill passing or not is just a little on the irritating side. I don't even watch sports...

Sure they bring in serious money, but I don't remember Kevin Durant or whoever getting elected into the Senate.
 

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That bill was up to pass here in OK. The House and Senate both passed it! Was awaiting the governor's signature when major revenue organizations (OKC Thunder to name one) rose a stink about the whole thing and it has since faded off into the forgotten past.

I've got a ccl so this doesn't deny me carrying, but how a basketball team can have any say over a bill passing or not is just a little on the irritating side. I don't even watch sports...

Sure they bring in serious money, but I don't remember Kevin Durant or whoever getting elected into the Senate.
You lost me at OK... :danceban:
 

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Again this year a purposel to allow constitutional carry. If this passes, Texas will be the 11th State to abide by constitutional carry under the second amendment. Would be nice if we could get over half of the States in the U.S. to pass constitutional carry and then by majority it would pass nationwide. Like I said, would be nice if it could work this way.....of course it has not passed here yet.

It may not. I remember last year many, even here at D.C., were opposed to open carry in Texas. Everyone was concerned about gun fights in the streets like we were the Okay Corral. No issues have been reported on open carry in Texas. We will see.,..

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/01/03/lawmaker-hopes-passing-constitutional-carry-bill-2/

How do you feel about Constitutional carry throughout all States?
I hope the TX bill at least makes it to the floor for a vote. Our state's Constitutional carry law became effective Jan. 1.

I don't see it changing much. Most will still want a CCW permit for reciprocity. If national reciprocity law doesn't pass and TX does pass a Constitutional Carry bill, you can bet that TX will lose reciprocity with every state that has more restrictive gun laws.

I would not expect Constitutional Carry to become Federal Law in every state, at least not in my lifetime. Far too many socialists hiding as liberals on both coasts for that to happen.
 

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How do you feel about Constitutional carry throughout all States?
We already have a Constitution that affirms that right.

What we need is to annul all the laws that are in violation of that Constitution. I have no hope of that happening in my lifetime.
I have to agree with this.

While it's nice that Texas is purposing such a bill, it's just another bone thrown to appease us 2A supporters.

Why should any law abiding citizen of this country have to have any kind of "permission" to carry a firearm, either open or concealed?

2A already guarantees the protection of citizens to self defense & defense of home, property & country.

And this from a state that allows OC of a long gun but calls for the need of a permit to carry a handgun, either OC or CC.
 

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That's a big step for a state that finally allowed its people to open carry.
 

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That's a big step for a state that finally allowed its people to open carry.
I'd say that a different way GMan - "...a state that finally recognized it's people's inalienable rights" :yup:
 

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Not to derail this thread but, I've sent emails & snail mail letters to my state reps to consider "permitless" concealed carry. Not sure where it will go but we have to try.

Personally, I think it asinine that we have to ask permission to "conceal" a handgun but it's perfectly legal to OC that same handgun. Unfortunately, it's how our state constitution was written.

Of course, having that permit does allow for gun purchases from an FFL to bypass the in-store NICS check.
 

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Florida had the reading of the Open Carry Bill today. This is the second time I believe. I wouldn't open carry anyhow but the bill also removes many other restrictions associated with where you can carry and who can impose those restrictions. We already have every half wit idiot running around carrying who shouldnt be.....what we need are more of us who should be carrying....carrying!!
 

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That's a big step for a state that finally allowed its people to open carry.
Texas and their 2A unfriendly laws embarrass me regularly. While they're at it, they need to take away the FOL crapola and start simplifying the rest of their firearm statutes. Maybe someday they can earn the 'pro-gun' reputation that they like to act like they have.
 

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Unintended consequences..........
Without License to Carry issued by the state you are fully subject to the federal Gun Free School Zones.
Without License to Carry you can not walk into any store that sells alcohol (Walmart, Target, Kroger, most gas stations and convenience stores etc.)
Without License to Carry you can not walk past a simple gunbuster sign. (if you do you may face felony charges)
Without License to Carry you have to go through the security screening at the capitol in Austin.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
 

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Again this year a purposel to allow constitutional carry. If this passes, Texas will be the 11th State to abide by constitutional carry under the second amendment.
They (anti-gunners) have finally shut-up around here, after it was passed here and there was no incidents and no blood in the streets, they said .... "it will happen". Well, it hasn't. So, they began to shutup.

There are 12 States NOW with Constitutional Carry .... Wyo and Utah it's "residents" only, so 10 with it for everyone. However, Indiana already has a bill going thru..... . And if Texas passes it, that may push the total number (with the ** of Wyo & Utah) , 14 if Indiana and Texas gets it done.

Wyo & Utah needs to modify theirs ..... to allow non-residents.

There are enough States that do have it, that support that the anit-gun argument is bogus and doesn't happen, to help other States get it passed. I like this approach and to keep pushing it along vs getting the Feds involved for Natl CC and licenses. We don't want the Feds involved in it.
 

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Unintended consequences..........
Without License to Carry issued by the state you are fully subject to the federal Gun Free School Zones.
Without License to Carry you can not walk into any store that sells alcohol (Walmart, Target, Kroger, most gas stations and convenience stores etc.)
Without License to Carry you can not walk past a simple gunbuster sign. (if you do you may face felony charges)
Without License to Carry you have to go through the security screening at the capitol in Austin.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
You can have a LTC and still exercise Constitutional Carry. I do it every day.

They are not mutually exclusive.
 

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You can have a LTC and still exercise Constitutional Carry. I do it every day.
My state went Constitutional carry and kept the license option for those that wanted one to be able to carry in States with whom we have reciprocity. Plus having a license that counts as an automatic background check when you purchase a firearm is pretty handy!
 

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Good for Texas, however, in regards to this thread: restrictions on Concealed Carry predate the founding and the founders did not write the 2A to explicitly limit the government from prohibiting CC- they could have but they did not so it is highly unlikely that the SCOTUS would expand the right to CC into the 2A. That is, as long as some form of bearing arms is allowed then the government is following the 2A.
 

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Good for Texas, however, in regards to this thread: restrictions on Concealed Carry predate the founding and the founders did not write the 2A to explicitly limit the government from prohibiting CC- they could have but they did not so it is highly unlikely that the SCOTUS would expand the right to CC into the 2A. That is, as long as some form of bearing arms is allowed then the government is following the 2A.
Our founding fathers did not specify anything other that the right to bear arms. They could have but they did not want or expect it to be a political pendulum wound by every opposing politician.....times were rougher but much simpler back then. JMHO
 
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