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Everybody ready for this circus to begin? They're selecting the jury (panel) now and he's going to represent himself.

My prediction is that he will drag this thing out for months and use it as a platform to promote his personal jihad against the US military specifically and the US in general.

They said he'll be calling some of the victims to cross examine. :aargh4:
Haven't these people suffered enough?
 

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And yet every month we find people that have been convicted and yet were innocent.
Drill down on a sample of those cases. They might be innocent of what they are accused of, but often they just got blamed for the wrong crime, but are guilty as hell of stuff that they slipped through the cracks on, or they really are guilty of the crime, but our lame justice system let them off and they can declare innocence.

Please don't select the one case where the accused was truly innocent and hold it up as an example to let all dirtbags run free.
 

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Holding an innocent person against their will is a crime, who goes to jail when the innocent are held in prison?
I knew you were gonna say something like that. :wink:

It's not a perfect world, but to chose anomalies to dictate policy is madness.

In this case, we have a guy who's shooting rampage was witnessed by a small multitude, some of whom survived him shooting them. I question the sanity of anyone who is not outraged that we have to presume his innocence. Perhaps you missed your calling as a criminal defense attorney.
 

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The upside, if he does turn it into a jihad-a-thon, is that the country will finally have to face the fact that this attack was indeed motivated by homegrown religious extremism, and deal with the implications.
 

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The upside, if he does turn it into a jihad-a-thon, is that the country will finally have to face the fact that this attack was indeed motivated by homegrown religious extremism, and deal with the implications.
Not really because the news coverage of the trial is going to be very limited.
 

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Not really because the news coverage of the trial is going to be very limited.
Maybe, but it IS a mass shooting. The media will have to balance covering up home-grown Islamist violence with portraying guns as evil. Hopefully a few junior reporters will miss the memo and actually do their jobs.
 

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Sorry but I think innocent people in jail is madness, even worse are innocent people put to death.
I would imagine 99% of the people on this forum feel the same way.

Hassan's defense will be interesting. I wonder how he plans to defend himself for cold blood murder?

That was a rhetorical question because I don't think he plans to defend himself at all. He plans to use the trial as a platform for his agenda of hate. He'll drag it out for as long as possible and be the martyr he's hoping to be in the end.

I don't agree that the news coverage will be limited. We may not see the trial on live TV like we're seeing the Zimmerman trial...but we'll be hearing about it 24/7.
 

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Is it a trial or a court martial? If the answer is trial, why?
 

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Court Martial proceeding
 
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Drill down on a sample of those cases. They might be innocent of what they are accused of, but often they just got blamed for the wrong crime, but are guilty as hell of stuff that they slipped through the cracks on, or they really are guilty of the crime, but our lame justice system let them off and they can declare innocence.

Please don't select the one case where the accused was truly innocent and hold it up as an example to let all dirtbags run free.
So its ok to jail someone for a crime they *didn't* commit because maybe they did something else, by it couldn't be proved? ***?!
 
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