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Never used this myself in anger - but an old buddy did once - in UK - heck, he had few other options in that hell hole of zero self defence! It supposedly had ''significant'' deterrant effect - that's all I recall.

Longish sock - fill with a good handful of loose change. Whirl about head and swing at BG - whack - ouch!! Sounds to me potentially effective - plus I guess you'd say easy to conceal.

But - any thoughts? Effective? I rather think it could be.
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I would be afraid if there was to much coinige to get a good weight it would split the sock at the toe seam.. now maybe 3-4 rolls of quaters in it might hold up but i dont ... The old bar of soap sound like a winner though one solid item and thats it
 

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That must be considered to be heavy weaponry in the UK where folks can't carry at all.
They will probably ban socks there next.
I would think that a solid, heavy, "walking stick" would be a bit more effective & versatile.
That reminds me of the old "FLAT SAP"
The leather filled with powdered lead or bird shot that LEOs and mobsters usta carry...way back when.
 

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9/11

Sock and a bar of soap is where it's at. Also great option for an airplane. No security is going to prevent a person from carrying a bar of soap in their carry on especially if its in a shower bag or something. If someone would have had one of those rigs on the 9/11 planes I think the outcome could have been different. Also along the same lines a western belt with a large beltbuckle is always worn by myself and is plane worthy. I'm no Bruce Lee but if I connect with this belt and buckly whoever I'm aiming at is going to be hurting.
 

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Paracord? I have a monkey's fist knot I made wrapped around a marble, and it's attached to my keychain. I guess you could clobber people with either end.



My wacky brother whacks his buddies in the buttocks with his monkey's fist.
 

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Betty said:
My wacky brother whacks his buddies in the buttocks with his monkey's fist.
There a line from the next Adam Sandler movie. :biggrin:
 

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[deep_thoughts]Hmm. That line can be taken any number of ways.[/deep_thoughts]

 

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[gasp...wretch...ralph]paracord[/gasp...wretch...ralph]

You guys bought stock in some third world thread factory and didn't tell the old Gumba, didn't ya?

'Scuse me, will you. I have to leave now. Me and the 101st are having our nails done. Then we're going to wrap my trailor hitch in paracord for that 'mercenary look' the chicks really crave.

[urp]paracord[/urp]
 

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QKShooter said:
That reminds me of the old "FLAT SAP"
The leather filled with powdered lead or bird shot that LEOs and mobsters usta carry...way back when.
Way back when? I carry one in the door compartment of my car every day.... :wink:

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Worked just as good in the Army too.
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Yes, it did! :biggrin:
 

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Hey, it was the first weapon ever used by the brand new vigilante character in the FIRST "Death Wish" movie. Decked the mugger and split apart as the BG took off. Just imagine going from the "sock" to a .30 cal belt fed machinegun in "Death Wish 3!"
 

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The Flat Sap

I was going to try to make one of those as a "leather project" ~ I have lots of old fine lead shot around.
Maybe by sometime next year I'll get around to making one.
Wasn't the whole idea behind the "Flat Sap" that you could knock the Bad Guys lights out :14a:...without doing any physical damage to his stupid skull? :eek:
 

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I was going to try to make one of those as a "leather project" ~ I have lots of old fine lead shot around.
Maybe by sometime next year I'll get around to making one.
Wasn't the whole idea behind the "Flat Sap" that you could knock the Bad Guys lights out :14a:...without doing any physical damage to his stupid skull? :eek:
I forgot I had a picture of mine in the gallery. And, yup, that was exactly what they were very effective for. If you learn just how to hit someone you can knock them out almost every time with one hit. They wake up with one hell of a lump and a headache but normally without any blood or permanent damage. Rent the movie Mulholland Falls and watch Nick Nolte use a sap to whup just about everyone he runs into.... :biggrin:

 

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The flat sap was almost universally carried by the guys in my old department when I first walked through the door (1977). Pretty well banned by most departments, nowadays.

I purchased and used (once!) a Bucheimer "Convoy" blackjack; 15-ounce rounded head of solid lead; spring handle covered with braided leather. Swatted a 6'2", 220 pound physical specimen (high on somethin') who was trying to beat down my partner. The dude collapsed like a brain-shot steer! Scared me half to death, 'cause I (and my partner) thought I'd killed him! He survived, but I did learn a lesson: The flat saps were less likely to cause concussions & skull fractures.

Come to think of it, I do believe he learned a lesson, too!
 

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It's Amazing

How many things that are fairly recent almost get lost to general population history.
I'll bet you could ask 99% of the people walking around in the U.S. what a "FLAT SAP" is and not get one correct answer!
 

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Next Step after the Flat Slap....

scbair said:
The flat sap was almost universally carried by the guys in my old department when I first walked through the door (1977). Pretty well banned by most departments, nowadays.

I purchased and used (once!) a Bucheimer "Convoy" blackjack; 15-ounce rounded head of solid lead; spring handle covered with braided leather. Swatted a 6'2", 220 pound physical specimen (high on somethin') who was trying to beat down my partner. The dude collapsed like a brain-shot steer! Scared me half to death, 'cause I (and my partner) thought I'd killed him! He survived, but I did learn a lesson: The flat saps were less likely to cause concussions & skull fractures.
Anybody ever used SAP GLOVES? Talk about dropping a perp like a brain shot buck! Sheeeeesh. You can use your fists or your open hands and just beat a guy near to the next life with very little effort.
 

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If not for my grandfather having a sizeable collection of them at one point...

I might now have known what a flat sap is.

Where I come from it's called a "blackjack" even though I've heard that term applied to other blunt weapons.

Personally I don't own one because the public perception is that they're super duper XXX illegal.
 
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