[P95Carry]

Jim Peel, a member of THR and TFL posted this - 5/19/04 on TFL. I forgot I had archived it tho I think my memory was jogged when someone else reposted it more recently.

I doubt all here have seen this and so reproduce it now - it is IMO a superb piece. Sums up so much.

From jim Peel, TFL 5/19/04

What did we gain when they demanded that our magazines be limited in size?
What did we gain when they demanded that our firearms of military pattern (speciously called "assault weapons") be registered?
What did we gain when they demanded that some of those firearms should be turned in as illegal after we registered them pursuant to the law?
What did we gain when they demanded that certain firearms be banned as "Saturday Night Specials" (a racist term)?
What did we gain when they demanded that we have to pay to get FOID cards in some states?
What did we gain when they demanded that we have to pay for fingerprinting and mug shots to get an FOID in some states?
What did we gain when they demanded that we strip off the cosmetic features from our firearms of military pattern?
What did we gain when they demanded that we undergo background checks that we have to pay for?
What did we gain when they demanded that certain firearms should not be imported?
What did we gain when they demanded that we should have to wait to a certain period of time before possessing property we had already paid for?
What did we gain when they demanded background checks at gun shows even for personally held firearms being sold by non-dealers?
What did we gain when they demanded that we pay a $200 tax to own certain firearms?

We gained nothing! We have compromised and compromised and compromised until we are tired of being the ones who always give something up.

They always speak of the "Good first step". The Brady Act was a "Good first step". The Assault Weapon ban was a "Good first step". The magazine ban was a "Good first step". The ban on imports was a "Good first step". THERE IS NEVER A SECOND STEP FOR THESE PEOPLE AS THE LAST STEP IS THE GOAL; AND THAT GOAL IS THE UNILATERAL BANNING OF ALL FIREARMS OF ALL TYPES.

So, what will we gain when they:
Demand that we register our firearms and have to pay for that "privilege"?
Demand that we register ourselves and have to pay for that "privilege"?
Demand that we have to have a permit to move our own property from place to place and we have to pay for the "privilege"?
Demand that we pay outrageous taxes on firearms and ammunition?
Demand that we have to keep our firearms locked in expensive "approved" safes or at expensive gun clubs?
Demand that we have to buy an "arsenal permit" when the number of firearms we own exceeds a certain number?
Demand that we have to buy an "arsenal permit" when the number of rounds of ammunition, or components thereof, exceeds a certain number?
Demand that we have to keep special insurance policies if we own a firearm?
Demand that we only be able to buy one firearm in any given period of time -- month, year, lifetime?

If any of you think that what I have posted is untrue, it is not. All of these have been proposed by various state and federal legislators. The anti-firearms faction NEVER gives up ANYTHING! They just keep demanding that we compromise away our rights, our liberties, and our property; and that we should accept this as "common sense". In the same breath they tell us that they are not anti-firearm and that they don't want to disarm law abiding citizens.

The same people who say that "Saturday Night Specials" should be banned because they have no militia purpose are the same ones who say that "assault weapons" should be banned because they are "weapons of war".

So tell me about "compromise" and "common sense" and how they don't really want to disarm us. Then ask yourself this one simple question:

If it is, as the Founders stated, that firearms in the hands of the citizenry are the last bastion against government tyranny; why is that same government so anxious to disarm that citizenry -- especially those firearms of military utility?

It's not about safety. It's not about common sense. It's not about "the children". It's about POWER; raw, unbridled power. Make no mistake about that. The power to regulate is the power to deny.

 

[RSSZ]

IMO we(gun owners,reloaders,shooters,CCWer's) have given so very much. We have to put our foot down and get orginized to fight this movement to take our freedoms from us. We have to keep it in the front of our minds that these are our RIGHTS. Sure,the NRA,ILA,and groops such as this do a great job "for us". But it's not nearly enough. Like the above post states,we have given up so very much. Where does it all end ?? Why do even we, call certin weapons "assault weapons" ?? They're NOT ! Even the NRA calls them "assault weapons". There is no such thing as an "assault weapon". Even little things like this, we cave in to. Our politicians have to be threatened with their jobs. This is the only thing that they(both Rep. and Dem.)understand. Our cause is so strong yet we can't seem to accomplish what our forefathers wanted us to have. We need to stop giving in to the anti's. We have given way too much already.---------

 

[Euclidean]

Give away?

I'm a member of the GoA and the TSRA.

I contact my officials.

I vote to protect my rights.

I spread the word.

I haven't given away crap. It's been taken from me by force.

 

[QKShooter]

GOOD THREAD P95Carry

Always good to remember that while there are MANY gun owners in the United States ~ We are still a minority ~ We are EASILY picked on to make "political hay" ~ Because we love this country so much & we are honest, good, patriotic people we tend to always abide by whatever government throws at us.
When any gun crime captures Nat Media Attention then we are used to score political points.

It's also good to remember that many people in the United States (always have) and STILL blame firearms for all of the crime & murder that happens in the United States.
They see absolutely no reason for anybody to own ANY firearm - SPORTING - HUNTING - SELF~DEFENSE - COMPETITION - ANTIQUE - Handgun - Rifle - or Shotgun. They see No Modern Use For ANY Of Them.
They would RATHER all firearms be burnt up in a huge government smelting furnace.
They think that will cause the United States to turn into a big, happy WoodStock Festival where everybody will walk around handing flowers to strangers on the street & we'll all get sunburned teeth from smiling at each other so much. I am not kidding they really DO believe that. They are dangerous because they are totally illogical.

And Please let's start calling Hi-Capacity Magazines - Normal Capacity Magazines.

 

[dhomoney]

Give away?

I'm a member of the GoA and the TSRA.

I contact my officials.

I vote to protect my rights.

I spread the word.

I haven't given away crap. It's been taken from me by force.

HERE, HERE!!!! I could not agree more. My rights have been taken from me, during my lifetime and even before. Be damned these politicians for taking our rights. I fear we will never have the dream back.